Lots of tribes you mean. Not organized under one government.

So it's settled, it wasn't a state.

kildens, nords, sani

how is that not a state?

It's not organized under one government. It's several tribes, not with a contiguous border I might add.

just because the state didnt include every single sami means it isnt a state?

Or a politically recognized government.

yeah, some of them did have borders

not all were nomadic

specifically not the southern or western ones

Internationally respected borders, coordinated by a single government? If not, then no state.

Your definition of state is exceedingly generous.

i know it is futile trying to argue with you

but i cant help but wonder where you get this shit

Westphalian sovereignty, the accepted rule for defining states for centuries, is apparently meaningless to you.

try to find some borders which were universally agreed upon in the early middle ages

The early middle ages were actually pretty universally agreed upon. Even though it was personal fiefdoms it was all on paper.

you cant describe historical states by "internationally recognized"

especially not feudal ones

But they were.

that is ridiculous

Ownership was tenuous, but it was there.

I'm sorry that you disagree with me but if you're ready to offer a counterargument at any time I'm ready.

Even the French, an extremely decentralized collection of ducal fiefdoms, was recognized a single polity in the middle ages.

Subdivided into the Occitans, Burgundians, etc. as regional subdivisions.

Because it was known the actual French king's authority in France was weak.

But all of the ducal states paid homage regardless.

But this is, of course, pre-Westphalian sovereignty. The same diplomacy applied but not the way it was agreed upon.

By Westphalian rules France was a state, the Sami were not.

Alright if that's all you have I have shit to do. Cya.

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A stateless society is possible, but only in isolation from a unified state. They simply can’t compete. They get crushed. At this point it’s not possible in most places on earth. I guess in the distant future when space travel and terraforming technology has dramatically improved, people could travel far away where they wouldn’t be bothered. I’m not sure how long one could be sustained though.

No because as human we strive to form groups and identities. Based on shared attributes location being one

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