yes

havent been for centuries

but we were

uhhhh which state

As far as I know the Sami are indigenous people that never organized themselves into a state but I may be wrong.

plenty of little tribal ones

Tribes aren't states.

believe at one point pre-conquest we were mostly unified

yes

what the hell do you mean tribes arent states?

Your definitions are all over the place.

an area under the leadership of 1 man with a fighting force and laws isnt a state?

Which means any disagreement ultimately boils down to semantics.

"a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
"Germany, Italy, and other European states""

You can take it up with an expert over whether or not the Sami were a state but I guarantee you 100% of them will agree it wasn't.

But that's just one example, and because it's an indigenous people it's an imperfect one.

Not at all the same as the Basque.

what the hell are you talking about?

Which state did the Sami organize themselves into?

lots of different ones

Lots of tribes you mean. Not organized under one government.

So it's settled, it wasn't a state.

kildens, nords, sani

how is that not a state?

It's not organized under one government. It's several tribes, not with a contiguous border I might add.

just because the state didnt include every single sami means it isnt a state?

Or a politically recognized government.

yeah, some of them did have borders

not all were nomadic

specifically not the southern or western ones

Internationally respected borders, coordinated by a single government? If not, then no state.

Your definition of state is exceedingly generous.

i know it is futile trying to argue with you

but i cant help but wonder where you get this shit

Westphalian sovereignty, the accepted rule for defining states for centuries, is apparently meaningless to you.

try to find some borders which were universally agreed upon in the early middle ages

The early middle ages were actually pretty universally agreed upon. Even though it was personal fiefdoms it was all on paper.

you cant describe historical states by "internationally recognized"

especially not feudal ones

But they were.

that is ridiculous