Message from @Pino Sinatra

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2018-07-27 18:10:07 UTC  

Mandatory, yes.

2018-07-27 18:10:07 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-07-27 18:10:25 UTC  

Even tho we should evaluate the patient's allergies so it won't harm the health of this, which is the opposite from the goal of this law I suppose

2018-07-27 18:10:26 UTC  

I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t even need to worry about most sicknesses in a few decades

2018-07-27 18:10:30 UTC  

ok how about this:::: if u don’t vaccinate and ur kid gives my kid polio or something i can shoot ur kid

2018-07-27 18:11:05 UTC  

@Pino Sinatra there are other forms of vaccines that take that into account

2018-07-27 18:11:22 UTC  

its why the nasal spray is catching on so much

2018-07-27 18:12:52 UTC  

Nope

2018-07-27 18:13:02 UTC  

Vaccines are spooks

2018-07-27 18:16:43 UTC  

Absolutely not. And that's not the same as being anti-vax. It doesn't cause autism.

2018-07-27 18:17:07 UTC  

Hold your horses there
how does that prevent a reaction that normal vaccines don't?

2018-07-27 18:18:11 UTC  

it's a health risk, and that's fucked up that people put themselves and others in danger
now a fitting resolution to the problem? that's where most people are stumped

2018-07-27 18:19:18 UTC  

I see it as an effective way to improve the overall health in the population

2018-07-27 18:20:02 UTC  

Remember that over 50 years ago polio was a serious threat that could've ruined your life in an outbreak

2018-07-27 18:20:28 UTC  

Normally I’d say no to mandatory government programs, but Vaccines are a huge benefit to society. It’s critical to the eradication of certain disease.

2018-07-27 18:20:43 UTC  

Now it's pretty much a myth and I think there's around 10 people using iron lungs now

2018-07-27 18:21:35 UTC  

diseases that we haven't had to worry about in decades are coming back because of that hasbeen model and that quack doctor

2018-07-27 18:28:55 UTC  

Well, that's partly true, germs adapt and they are becoming more powerful as we still use drugs for everything

2018-07-27 18:29:10 UTC  

Now that lets to another question

2018-07-27 18:29:36 UTC  

Could we use viruses to fight diseases once vaccines become useless?

2018-07-27 18:29:43 UTC  

actually the biggest concern is overuse on our livestock

2018-07-27 18:30:01 UTC  

iirc 80% of antibiotics are used in livestock

2018-07-27 18:30:49 UTC  

And then it goes to our foods and so on

2018-07-27 18:31:44 UTC  

yep

2018-07-27 18:32:09 UTC  

what we really need to tackle is factory farming, thats our achilles heel

2018-07-27 18:32:15 UTC  

@Da_Fish I think compulsory anything chemical being put into you is bad

2018-07-27 18:32:29 UTC  

Please do not ping me

2018-07-27 18:32:30 UTC  

That's the motherload of honeypots for baddies

2018-07-27 18:32:33 UTC  

for QOTD answers

2018-07-27 18:32:35 UTC  

Oh ok sorry

2018-07-27 18:33:02 UTC  

The only bigger honeypots I can think of are in communism and ancapitalism

2018-07-27 18:36:00 UTC  

how is it a honeypot?

2018-07-27 18:57:13 UTC  

pleasure from seeing both sides fighting I guess?

2018-07-27 19:05:51 UTC  

Tribalism?

2018-07-27 19:10:12 UTC  

idk, it just doesn't make any sense to me to refer to vaccines as a honeypot to me

2018-07-27 19:20:50 UTC  

Create a disease that infects and wipes out harmful bacteria and viruses, yet doesn't harm other cells/life? I see no way that can go wrong.

2018-07-27 19:24:51 UTC  

I can imagine post-antibiotic healthcare similar to "chemo" for different diseases. Of course, most diseases caused by bacteria and viruses are not terminal so treatment for, say, measles would be short-lived and mild compared to cancer. Especially if they can target specifically the measles virus.

2018-07-27 19:30:06 UTC  

Eventually we will have another Alexander Fleming and another penicillin. And then diseases will resist that method to; an eternal arms race until one side gets wiped out. At least, that's the telos of medicine science, to end sickness.

2018-07-27 19:52:35 UTC  

Seems fair

2018-07-27 19:53:43 UTC  

At the end we can't run away from evolution