Message from @V-NAF_Aardist

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2018-08-03 00:13:39 UTC  

Doing His will is good, and disobeying is evil/deleterious

2018-08-03 00:14:02 UTC  

right

2018-08-03 00:16:10 UTC  

wait

2018-08-03 00:16:16 UTC  

god's omniscient, right?

2018-08-03 00:16:18 UTC  

One of the things we're supposed to do is help those in need, and raise them up out of bad situations.

2018-08-03 00:17:11 UTC  

@21tagtmeiern Essentially, yes

2018-08-03 00:17:26 UTC  

then aren't people who sin just doing as expected of them

2018-08-03 00:17:58 UTC  

No, they're choosing to not follow the best plan created by God

2018-08-03 00:18:13 UTC  

but god knew that plan wouldn't come to pass

2018-08-03 00:18:16 UTC  

so why would he make it

2018-08-03 00:23:20 UTC  

I'm sorry, I should've been clearer above. I meant that God can see what is happening in the present, and possible futures. However, the whole future is not determined (to my knowledge), and there are parts in the bible where He essentially says He was surprised or shocked by something unexpected happening.

2018-08-03 00:23:39 UTC  

ah gotcha

2018-08-03 00:24:15 UTC  

what makes doing god's will objectively good?

2018-08-03 00:38:07 UTC  

Well, it's something I'm sill studying, but I think it has do do with natural consequences of actions

2018-08-03 00:41:27 UTC  

For example, the way we are built, the wages of staying underwater without air is drowning, Sin is doing that which we are not meant to do, and thus performing sinful actions affects us negatively, sooner or later.

2018-08-03 00:48:52 UTC  

Bringing this back to the original question, we must determine how economic policies affect man's ability to perform God's will. If they encourage sin, even if they claim to oppose it, then they are bad policies. But if they disincentivise sin and/or incentivise doing good, then they are good policies. It's the same with traditions.

2018-08-03 00:50:24 UTC  

If you're interested, Missing the Mark is a youtuber with some good videos related to this subject, though I disagree with him on some things (I'm not Catholic).

2018-08-03 02:03:56 UTC  

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2018-08-03 14:13:21 UTC  

@Froce The main reason our prisons are huge is blacks/hispanics commit crimes

2018-08-03 14:13:57 UTC  

Most states don't send you to jail for possession anymore

2018-08-03 15:59:42 UTC  

@here What's the new QotD?

2018-08-03 16:46:29 UTC  

@everyone 🔖 Daily Question

What would an ideal immigration system look like in your dream country? Share your thoughts.

2018-08-03 16:46:46 UTC  

COLLECTIVE

2018-08-03 16:46:49 UTC  

Banned

2018-08-03 16:47:10 UTC  

No immigration

2018-08-03 16:47:26 UTC  

none except if they speak the language, learn the culture, learn the history, and display an alright level of intelligence in various aptitude tests

2018-08-03 16:47:41 UTC  

a stark contrast to the citizenship test for the USA, which is quite literally 10 questions

2018-08-03 16:47:47 UTC  

What Hanaso said

2018-08-03 16:47:49 UTC  

6 of which you need to get correct

2018-08-03 16:48:07 UTC  

Allow immigrants in but at the same time enforce the death penalty.

2018-08-03 16:48:44 UTC  

lmfao

2018-08-03 16:49:33 UTC  

modern Japanese immigration systems

2018-08-03 16:49:42 UTC  

pretty much perfect

2018-08-03 17:03:44 UTC  

My dream "country" would probably be a voluntary confederation of covenant communities. Depending on the confederal law/agreements, each covenant would probably choose it's own way of accepting or denying people membership/citizenship.

2018-08-03 17:11:28 UTC  

@CryptoBlok I think that's similar to syndicalism

2018-08-03 17:16:09 UTC  

Syndicalism is more of a socialistic economic system. https://infogalactic.com/info/Syndicalism

2018-08-03 17:17:54 UTC  

I'm thinking more like a confederacy of Hoppean-style covenant communities, though I guess they would each have the right to determine their own economic policies as well.

2018-08-03 17:22:33 UTC  

basically I'll recover the National Origins Act

2018-08-03 17:23:33 UTC  

^

2018-08-03 18:27:05 UTC  

no immigration

2018-08-03 22:34:12 UTC  

Closed borders with few exceptions. People can visit, maybe even go to school, but have to leave when they’re done.