Message from @Kosaki

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2018-08-18 20:03:00 UTC  

especially prostitution@PebbЛe

2018-08-18 20:03:20 UTC  

prostitution is not an industry

2018-08-18 20:03:23 UTC  

no industry?

2018-08-18 20:03:24 UTC  

wtf

2018-08-18 20:03:31 UTC  

Things like prisons should not be privatized, for example.

2018-08-18 20:03:57 UTC  

true

2018-08-18 20:04:03 UTC  

i don't think of that as an industry

2018-08-18 20:04:04 UTC  

Privatize the police, if you privatize it it will become more efficient with money. Look at american EMS for an example!

2018-08-18 20:04:08 UTC  

even though it is

2018-08-18 20:04:12 UTC  

we should go back to subsitance farming and raiding

2018-08-18 20:04:12 UTC  

An interesting case of privatization being an issue is the merchant marine. As of right now were the USA to enter a prolonged war again the size of Iraq/Afghanistan our merchant marine is no longer large enough to supply such an effort. The US Gov has been looking into subsidizing the merchant marine to avoid this disaster.

2018-08-18 20:04:17 UTC  

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2018-08-18 20:04:22 UTC  

@21tagtmeiern Privatized prisons are a thing, though

2018-08-18 20:04:29 UTC  

if you privatize the police you give up on egalitarian justice

2018-08-18 20:04:41 UTC  

same with prisons

2018-08-18 20:04:45 UTC  

yea like that exists in america

2018-08-18 20:04:46 UTC  

Basically a private merchant marine means the USA is neutered

2018-08-18 20:04:46 UTC  

it never did

2018-08-18 20:04:57 UTC  

it should tho

2018-08-18 20:05:07 UTC  

and things can definitely get worse on that front

2018-08-18 20:05:07 UTC  

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2018-08-18 20:07:26 UTC  

Privatizing certain industries creates fucked up incentives

2018-08-18 20:07:38 UTC  

But so do public industries

2018-08-18 20:07:50 UTC  

for instance a private prison system would be reliant on convictions to continue it's existence...

2018-08-18 20:08:04 UTC  

But prison guard unions in the USA already support harsher drug penalties

2018-08-18 20:09:47 UTC  

We can't stop the drug war because it would mean millions of unemployed law enforcement psychos

2018-08-18 20:11:07 UTC  

Tbh everyone is going to look out for own self interests and will act accordingly, only difference with a public industry is that they have a monopoly on power and thus taxation and can force people to use their services and make private competition illegal.

2018-08-18 20:13:48 UTC  

Yeah in general privatizing is the way to go

2018-08-18 20:14:00 UTC  

But a private police force is fucking retarded

2018-08-18 20:14:13 UTC  

Because they might have incentives to convict people without cause

2018-08-18 20:15:24 UTC  

Naa, that would mean they get paid or rewarded for # of arrests where I think private police would only survive if they prevented crime also

2018-08-18 20:15:55 UTC  

There's certain industries that just function better if inefficient

2018-08-18 20:16:02 UTC  

Law enforcement is one of those

2018-08-18 20:16:21 UTC  

I'd prefer a lazy deadbeat cop that ignores crime to one that actively plants evidence to hit his quota

2018-08-18 20:16:26 UTC  

police dont stop crimes from happening, just appear afterwards. Im sure someone linked here a private police VICE in a mexican town, and ive seen one in detroit too which has been successful

2018-08-18 20:16:27 UTC  

I mean how the fuck do you prove evidence was planted

2018-08-18 20:16:31 UTC  

it's literally impossible

2018-08-18 20:16:44 UTC  

All a cop has to do is bring a bag of drugs and say he found it in your car

2018-08-18 20:17:29 UTC  

When you add things that private industry would do, or even what some public forces do, like quotas, it becomes really fucked up

2018-08-18 20:17:37 UTC  

Same thing for prosecutors in the USA

2018-08-18 20:17:43 UTC  

they get elected based on how harsh they are