Message from @Omniconsumerproducts
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An interesting case of privatization being an issue is the merchant marine. As of right now were the USA to enter a prolonged war again the size of Iraq/Afghanistan our merchant marine is no longer large enough to supply such an effort. The US Gov has been looking into subsidizing the merchant marine to avoid this disaster.
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@21tagtmeiern Privatized prisons are a thing, though
if you privatize the police you give up on egalitarian justice
same with prisons
yea like that exists in america
Basically a private merchant marine means the USA is neutered
it never did
it should tho
and things can definitely get worse on that front
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Privatizing certain industries creates fucked up incentives
But so do public industries
for instance a private prison system would be reliant on convictions to continue it's existence...
But prison guard unions in the USA already support harsher drug penalties
We can't stop the drug war because it would mean millions of unemployed law enforcement psychos
Tbh everyone is going to look out for own self interests and will act accordingly, only difference with a public industry is that they have a monopoly on power and thus taxation and can force people to use their services and make private competition illegal.
Yeah in general privatizing is the way to go
But a private police force is fucking retarded
Because they might have incentives to convict people without cause
Naa, that would mean they get paid or rewarded for # of arrests where I think private police would only survive if they prevented crime also
There's certain industries that just function better if inefficient
Law enforcement is one of those
I'd prefer a lazy deadbeat cop that ignores crime to one that actively plants evidence to hit his quota
police dont stop crimes from happening, just appear afterwards. Im sure someone linked here a private police VICE in a mexican town, and ive seen one in detroit too which has been successful
I mean how the fuck do you prove evidence was planted
it's literally impossible
All a cop has to do is bring a bag of drugs and say he found it in your car
When you add things that private industry would do, or even what some public forces do, like quotas, it becomes really fucked up
Same thing for prosecutors in the USA
they get elected based on how harsh they are
The entire thing is fucked
if police get a rep for planting evidence (which police do now lets be honest) you can just stop paying for that particular polices services and use a competitors. also if its a worry, I can run a business that has a policy of police wearing cameras at all times when on shift and footage can be openly viewed
Yeah I suppose then it'd be alright
But still it's fairly easy to plant evidence
Private industry is better equipped to change according to the needs and concerns of the customers
Just plant it before your shift and find the guy during your shift
I agree that private should be the default mode
The more important the industry however the more the argument for public becomes legitimate
Like for instance nutrition
Image if the guy you planted it on had some kind of CCTV and caught you, the fine you would get..... jesus