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2018-08-31 03:12:44 UTC  

it was the 18th century version of atheist

2018-08-31 03:12:51 UTC  

when that was too controversial to say

2018-08-31 03:13:20 UTC  

t. former unironic deist

2018-09-01 00:09:00 UTC  

@Jay1532 You are exactly right!

2018-09-01 00:09:22 UTC  

t. former unironic deist

2018-09-01 01:31:36 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Should positive rights such as a right to protection by police exist?

2018-09-01 01:32:03 UTC  

2018-09-01 01:33:32 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-01 01:33:46 UTC  

that's like one of the only things I expect of the state

2018-09-01 01:34:05 UTC  

I mean, arguably not "protection by police", as the institution of the police should be replaced with more community oriented groups

2018-09-01 01:34:06 UTC  

but

2018-09-01 01:34:07 UTC  

>anarchist bitch
>Yes

2018-09-01 01:34:24 UTC  

People are failing to understand the ramifications of a positive right like that though

2018-09-01 01:34:24 UTC  

The right to housing, the right to healthcare, etc

2018-09-01 01:34:38 UTC  

maybe I worded it badly

2018-09-01 01:34:41 UTC  

yes, that spooky idea that things will need to be provided

2018-09-01 01:34:46 UTC  

Police in the USA have no obligation to protect you

2018-09-01 01:34:51 UTC  

Also, I'm not even an anarchist, this name is just intentionally edgy

2018-09-01 01:34:51 UTC  

Police in the USA only punish crime

2018-09-01 01:34:54 UTC  

they don't stop it

2018-09-01 01:34:58 UTC  

or prevent it

2018-09-01 01:35:00 UTC  

I mean

2018-09-01 01:35:00 UTC  

that's not their job

2018-09-01 01:35:06 UTC  

there shouldn't be "preventative arrests"

2018-09-01 01:35:14 UTC  

Prevention is one aspect of punishment

2018-09-01 01:35:22 UTC  

Like if they see someone actively committing a crime

2018-09-01 01:35:28 UTC  

that just leads to the potential of arresting anyone for any reason

2018-09-01 01:35:32 UTC  

and is hella authoritarian

2018-09-01 01:35:32 UTC  

so

2018-09-01 01:35:33 UTC  

but they don't have any obligation to protect you

2018-09-01 01:35:38 UTC  

if you look it up

2018-09-01 01:35:40 UTC  

they do, though

2018-09-01 01:35:44 UTC  

to some degree

2018-09-01 01:35:52 UTC  

I mean, in practice, they don't always

2018-09-01 01:35:53 UTC  

no

2018-09-01 01:35:57 UTC  

so like if someone is being killed, wait till the assault is over to arrest them?

2018-09-01 01:36:00 UTC  

but apprehending active criminals is a form of protection

2018-09-01 01:36:04 UTC  

They can do that griselda

2018-09-01 01:36:11 UTC  

that's a form of protection

2018-09-01 01:36:16 UTC  

I feel like I don't understand the question then