Message from @Alice Redacted

Discord ID: 485261397173862400


2018-09-01 01:33:46 UTC  

that's like one of the only things I expect of the state

2018-09-01 01:34:05 UTC  

I mean, arguably not "protection by police", as the institution of the police should be replaced with more community oriented groups

2018-09-01 01:34:06 UTC  

but

2018-09-01 01:34:07 UTC  

>anarchist bitch
>Yes

2018-09-01 01:34:24 UTC  

People are failing to understand the ramifications of a positive right like that though

2018-09-01 01:34:24 UTC  

The right to housing, the right to healthcare, etc

2018-09-01 01:34:38 UTC  

maybe I worded it badly

2018-09-01 01:34:41 UTC  

yes, that spooky idea that things will need to be provided

2018-09-01 01:34:46 UTC  

Police in the USA have no obligation to protect you

2018-09-01 01:34:51 UTC  

Also, I'm not even an anarchist, this name is just intentionally edgy

2018-09-01 01:34:51 UTC  

Police in the USA only punish crime

2018-09-01 01:34:54 UTC  

they don't stop it

2018-09-01 01:34:58 UTC  

or prevent it

2018-09-01 01:35:00 UTC  

I mean

2018-09-01 01:35:00 UTC  

that's not their job

2018-09-01 01:35:06 UTC  

there shouldn't be "preventative arrests"

2018-09-01 01:35:14 UTC  

Prevention is one aspect of punishment

2018-09-01 01:35:22 UTC  

Like if they see someone actively committing a crime

2018-09-01 01:35:28 UTC  

that just leads to the potential of arresting anyone for any reason

2018-09-01 01:35:32 UTC  

and is hella authoritarian

2018-09-01 01:35:32 UTC  

so

2018-09-01 01:35:33 UTC  

but they don't have any obligation to protect you

2018-09-01 01:35:38 UTC  

if you look it up

2018-09-01 01:35:40 UTC  

they do, though

2018-09-01 01:35:44 UTC  

to some degree

2018-09-01 01:35:52 UTC  

I mean, in practice, they don't always

2018-09-01 01:35:53 UTC  

no

2018-09-01 01:35:57 UTC  

so like if someone is being killed, wait till the assault is over to arrest them?

2018-09-01 01:36:00 UTC  

but apprehending active criminals is a form of protection

2018-09-01 01:36:04 UTC  

They can do that griselda

2018-09-01 01:36:11 UTC  

that's a form of protection

2018-09-01 01:36:16 UTC  

I feel like I don't understand the question then

2018-09-01 01:36:28 UTC  

you can't really preemptively protect someone

2018-09-01 01:36:35 UTC  

Simply put police have no obligation to protect

2018-09-01 01:36:44 UTC  

wtf do police do then

2018-09-01 01:36:52 UTC  

kill black people

2018-09-01 01:36:52 UTC  

put people in jail afterwards

2018-09-01 01:36:55 UTC  

that's their only job

2018-09-01 01:37:12 UTC  

that's not preventative at it's core

2018-09-01 01:37:46 UTC  

Police should have a duty to protect citizens from criminals