anyone who outsources our jobs gets their families taken away

Corporations should not influence the government

big business shouldn't be able to influence democratically elected politicians in any way imo

@Doctor Anon I would say international corporations shouldnt

but you cant just be like "send that bakery owner to prison for having a pro trump poster on his property"

@L0GAN businesses can have political associations, but not ones vital to the people like water, electrical, and major social media platforms, just not *influence*

Oh i completely agree with that

Private property needs to be rethinked with the invention of social media and the internet

The best way to not have business become large is by no longer supporting them. By not supporting them, they won't grow big and will most likely close down. Support the ones you think would be best for the future, instead of supporting a multi-media dollar corporation. But again, how would you do that when all of the business have already been successful back then as it is now? That's my answer to the question.

@Matthew John (aka Coastermaker) problem is you'd need a very large group of people to make q difference now

Like for YouTube, there probably won't be any actual competition for a while, it's a monopoly

That is why I mentioned in the last part is "How would you do it if the company is already successfu back then as it is now?" There you go.

@L0GAN foreign companies should have no say in ones government or politics.

@Doctor Anon or the support of sjws...

It's a tool for trade wars

Can't let China win so it is necessary

Too much involvement from the state - interferes with the free market

Yes but what if China wins

We can't let China win

Then they win fair and square through the free market. Such is the nature of the free market

If China wins everybody loses

There's no free market in China

There's a market with a lot of government control

Correct, but China still competes in the free market globally

It does means state interference, but i'm happy to allow the state some power if it doesn't involve China winnning

Either the US market wins with moderate government intervention, or the chinese one wins with massive government intervention

I'm libertarian until I remember that China exists

The problem is that the chinese government subsidises everything remotly important that can be sold on the world stage.

And Protectionism is needed to stop China from controlling all the trade.

Protectionism is important depending on the market. If you are a huge producer of good quality goods and you don’t have a trade deficit, then be free market. If you have a huge trade deficit and no one buys your goods, then use protectionism

In my yet to be molded opinion, Protectionism is a good thing. However, I don't really know anything about the matter.

Protectionism is bad economic policy. However, it is a useful political tool to punish and bully other nations into submission.

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Why be protectionist when you can be imperialist?

I mean

protectionism is objectively worse off for the market, especially between countries with similar labor/pollution laws

It should only be used to restrict the flow of goods created with slave/sweatshop labor

Sweatshop labor is good for those in sweatshops. They average higher wages than others in the same country. It helps raise families and nations out of poverty. Those working in sweatshops want to work there, so protectionism against sweatshop labor is punishing them for their own choices and pursuing their own best interest.

Ideally yes, because it does make the country wealthier and respects personal freedom to trade across borderlines just like private actors between states can, however, when you have third world nations that either restrict the rights of the people or are using tactics such as currency manipulation then tariffs can be used as a bargaining tool to make the country fall in line with economic policy that will make both that country and your country better off in the long run

To be clear, "it" in the beginning is free trade, and i was just going over some exceptions to the rule of free trade

The free market is a false idea. No one does this in practice. Look at the data from wto of ongoing protective measures and you will see every country always has them. China especially does not have a free market. To produce in china, you must accept a partnership with a local businessman, usually a chinese conglomerate before even opening. Then they steal all your trade secrets and open a competing factory across the street and undercut you using the backing of the chinese government subsidizing any losses. Its crazy to suggest china has a free market!!!!