Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿
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Objective
Morality is a construct and as such it is objective in the eyes of the one who created the moral system. The definition of morality would support this notion.
Natural rights + evolutionary psychology = basic standard of morality every remotely successful society has ever held.
There are even extents to which morality extends i.e.: how right, or wrong something is.
E.g. Killing is wrong, but under circumstance it is accepted.
Murder <:unequal:473954748517842954> killing
I didn't say murder.
Should have put it other way around
Killing is not wrong under most every moral system
Murder is though
A life is a life regardless of what is chosen to do with it. I'm not saying that killing can not be justified.
But the fact that you just said "every moral system" contradicts your statement that morality is objective.
As if there was an objective morality, there would be no systems.
Like I said, basically all moral systems make a distinction between the two. Killing is an amoral act.
There would just be morality.
Right and wrong.
Moral systems <:unequal:473954748517842954> morality
surely the fact that there’s an argument at all about this should show that morality isn’t objective
Exactly.
Lol not even close
That it is fluid and dynamic.
We can argue about fact of whether there is a god or not, the fact there is a disagreement doesn't make God's existence subjective
God's existence is not subjective.
You don't need to agree on an objective truth for it to be objective
It is objective, as Good exists, or does not exist.
And the objective reality is that there is no way to know for certain.
That is what faith is.
i mean imo unless there’s indisputable evidence to back something up then it’s subjective
so from my point of view god’s existance would be subjective
@ham addition that's not how objectivity works
Though
You could say that all systems is morality are objective.
Subjectivity means there is no right answer. Objectivity means there is a right answer, whether we know what the right answer is or not
No.
It means that a person's judgment based on facts can not be swayed by opinion, or feeling.
So if there were facts to support both arguments, both could be objective. By the definition of the word.
Then it is a matter of who is more right.
i mean you can’t really solidly prove that god exists with facts, all we can go off is opinions
I wouldn't call Faith an opinion.
subjective