Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿
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I already provided two: natural rights and evolutionary psychology
So, morality is a human concept, and as such you have argued against yourself in saying that humanity can never reach an objective morality, meaning it does not exist.
When did I say that?
Hmmm, "We cannot achieve perfect objectivity in our moral systems."
Because "humans are not perfectly logical creatures."
I already addressed this too, objective morality is the foundation for our moral systems
There is no objective morality.
There are no facts of it.
Nothing that proves it is.
There is only your opinion.
I have given standards to validate it
You dodged all my questions on the subjects of what is more right, and how it righteousness is dictated.
When did I dodge them? What were they?
What are natural rights?
And "evolutionary psychology" is just genetic memory.
So genetics are partly to determine what is moral?
To what extent?
And if that is so, not all humans are genetically identical, with so much variation, how is that a proper determinant?
Natural rights is the philosophical concept of the state of nature for an individual to be truly free from outside compulsion and force.
Then it's an opinion.
Genral relgion based on race, muslims have no parted morals, there is not straight guideline 'rules' to morals
religion*
general*
Natural rights are a concept. That isn't the basis for morality though, it is a standard to check it too.
Then what *is* the objective morality?
Where does it exist?
How does it exist?
I'm not debating what it is, just that it is objective
You have to define things to debate
None of which you have done.
You haven't told me how it exists, why it exists, when it came to exist, where it exists, what it exists as.
Only said it does
Which is faith.
Which apparently is an opinion m
Wtf? Most of those questions don't apply to morality at all
And opinions are not facts.
The relate to the existence of this "objective" morality.
Whatever that is.
And that is what we are talking about, not morality itself.
But the existence of an objective reality.