Message from @L0GAN
Discord ID: 488151786469851156
Its a shame we couldn't get more into it but lets talk again
@The Big Oof why not just prevent them from reproducing?
Institutions have to be erected to care for them
Ayn Rand is based
Change my mind
Not really, many already exist, and parents do a lot of the caring for them themselves
You wouldn't need to change much atm
If you're a 17 y/o boy Ayn Rand is cool for two seconds.
As much as I hate to say it, even Karl Marx is a better philosopher than Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand should lead the new world order
Imo objectivist use of "selfishness" is disingenuous
karl marx wasnt a bad philosopher
he just didnt realise communism wasnt practical at all
In other words a bad philosopher
it wasnt not practical because it was bad
it was not practical because it was too utopian in the way he said it
like communism in his definition is extremely utopian and unsustainable
in other definitions where theres an actual government it causes famines and other humane crisis and then lasts as long as a normal gov anyways so its bad
Yeah but caloric intake and literacy skyrocketed under the Soviets.
Same for China.
They didn't have to though.
like communism isnt really a government its a way to achieve government
Are you suggesting that there's a causation between famines and eating more food???
unless yoru wanna go by marx's commie gov that had no gov at all and is overly utopian
@εïз irma εïз yes
more people to feed
more food needed
Yeah but the Soviets escaped the Malthusian trap by modernizing.
yeah
*thanks to papa joe*
You're outlining an effectively pre-revolution phenomenon.
so do you support communism or are you against it
No I just think that commies bad bcuz holodomor is excessively memey.
communism realistically should be considered a country that uses revolution to achieve a socialist government
not all that other impossible shit marx made up
so do you think revolution is the best way to establish socialism @εïз irma εïз
I think it's the only way.
Decadent liberal bureaucracies aren't going to bring socialism.
what about using social democracy or democratic socialism (whicver you prefer to call it) to slowly transition into it
That's exactly what I just said.