like communism in his definition is extremely utopian and unsustainable

in other definitions where theres an actual government it causes famines and other humane crisis and then lasts as long as a normal gov anyways so its bad

Yeah but caloric intake and literacy skyrocketed under the Soviets.

Same for China.

*but they did have to have massive famines and depressions*

They didn't have to though.

like communism isnt really a government its a way to achieve government

Are you suggesting that there's a causation between famines and eating more food???

unless yoru wanna go by marx's commie gov that had no gov at all and is overly utopian

@εïз irma εïз yes

more people to feed

more food needed

Yeah but the Soviets escaped the Malthusian trap by modernizing.

yeah

*thanks to papa joe*

You're outlining an effectively pre-revolution phenomenon.

so do you support communism or are you against it

No I just think that commies bad bcuz holodomor is excessively memey.

communism realistically should be considered a country that uses revolution to achieve a socialist government

not all that other impossible shit marx made up

so do you think revolution is the best way to establish socialism @εïз irma εïз

I think it's the only way.

Decadent liberal bureaucracies aren't going to bring socialism.

what about using social democracy or democratic socialism (whicver you prefer to call it) to slowly transition into it

That's exactly what I just said.

*but i phrased it differently to push an agenda*

*jokes on you foolish butterfly*

Which agenda?

@Euro-American Bandit use the correct format nignog

Okay

wat

That is the worst QOTD I have ever seen

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MODS

Fine. I shall delete it

Ban @Euro-American Bandit for his poor taste

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