They were one

My ancestors had a tradition of moving and colonizing other lands.

Yes but the key word is colonize

They TOOK it for themselves and made it their own. They valued the land enough to claim it

All land that is owned was once claimed in battle

Land is inherited by the children of the victors

Eh, not always. The Rus were just invited the rule.

I guarantee that this land was contested in the past

Although I will admit that the "alt right" and co. should drop nationalism and adopt a more "globalist" platform so to speak

After all, the movement is international and has supporters around the world

That doesn't make any sense.

Well, what if the UK successfully became the white ethnostate? Wouldn't the alt right want to move there?

You'd see thousands of them leaving their "homelands" to migrate to the ethnostate

@Vilhelmsson see what I mean? Not very nationalist

That's just White Nationalism.

just say nationalism

god its annoying

nobody complains about black nationalism in africa

That's my point: white nationalists are hindered by nationalism

@Swiss Cheese I do, it's gay.

It would be better to have "white globalism" in a sense

The entire White world is their nation, it makes perfect sense.

Well Europe and North America anyway

I see your point

Oh, also @Swiss Cheese, White Nationalism and, for example, German Nationalism are two very different things.

As I was saying, the right should believe in objective good. The left wants Utopia, but they is not an objective end. Utopia is subjective. They don't care what the utopia looks like as long as everyone is happy and relatively equal

@campodin I disagree. It is pretty normal for people to value things and want society to change in some way or move towards a 'better' society they can imagine

Whether Progressives, Communists, An Caps, or the Alt Right

That feature isn't unique to the Right

Not at all, that is the definition of Progressivism.

The reason it is so common all sort of ideologies is because Liberalism is so rooted in out culture.

@Snakeisninja I'm not saying the pursuit of a better society, but the pursuit of **objective** good

@campodin well objective morality isn't exclusive to the right either. Just look at Liberalism. All men are created with rights, the state exists to protect these rights, the people have the right to overthrow a tyrannical state...this whole ideology is rooted in morality

The liberal lense identifies certain acts as good and others as evil

I think that there is a spectrum of liberalism

The right end is US conservatism

Which believes in objective good and rights

The left end like Vee and Sargon believe in these values subjectively

there is no objective good - at least from a moral relativist standpoint

Moral relativism is gay

so is claiming an objective good tbh