Message from @campodin
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The right end is US conservatism
Which believes in objective good and rights
The left end like Vee and Sargon believe in these values subjectively
there is no objective good - at least from a moral relativist standpoint
Moral relativism is gay
so is claiming an objective good tbh
Well, I agree with moral relativist, however, I think that is exactly why we need God to give us a unrelative example to follow.
instead of an objective good - we simply need a subjective good that is more or less objective in the eyes of our populace
hence why i am a paternal conservative
*the answer* vs *our answer* sorta deal
Objective good can be determined from the fact that the world is objective, and there are certain behaviors that will always benefit your society and create healthy communities that preserve your integrity and ensure your survival. This is the objective good that should be pursued.
But benefit is subjective
How?
What you see as good I may not.
^
What an ancap sees as beneficial may not be seen as beneficial to a fascist
Disagreement on good doesn't make it subjective
Well unless you have something that objectifies your view on good and evil it is still subjective
How do you prove something is good then?
That can be different for different people. As for the question of the day I'm only interested in that the right actually believes there is an objective good
>That can be different for different people.
So it's subjective.
(((Good)))
This QOTD is very good. Sometimes I'm quite confused by some responses to the polls if this is a "right wing" Discord. Political thought has entirely converged to the Left. It's diluted to Hell. Almost everyone who identifies as "Right" now are Leftists -- I'm looking at Right-Libertarians too.
Where does Left/Right come from? Those who supported Enlightenment ideals and the French Revolution sat to the left in the National Assembly, and the opposite sat to the right. *"Libertarian" and "liberal" have the same etymology for a reason.* They come from the same origin. Libertarians and a vast swath of the "Right" would be sitting on the left in 1789. Modern "conservatives" are not Rightists. They are libertarians of a sort.
Any real Rightist philosophy is virtually unknown now. And by that I mean: any philosophy not born out of the successful regime and moral changes of the 18th and 19th centuries, i.e.: Thomas Carlyle, Julius Evola, Oswald Spengler. So, to the question, what is truly "Right"? Winding your way back down the tree of political ideologies to the real fundamental divide that started it all and is anything born out of the Right from back then.
The defining characteristic of the right is to segregate and divide peoples in order to best allocate them for the further good of society. This was the wisdom of the Aryans in India, who, following the Vedas divided each person into a caste by birth and created a truly right-wing society. In the works of Aristotle we also find division, he notes that the office of the wise man is to keep order and govern alone (presumably over a tribe?) and the office of the less wise to obey the wise man.
And it was inefficient as fuck
Why is why the US wasn't built on that shit and had some respect for capitalism and the free market
Because you can't expect society to find out who is good at X or Y, let alone in this century
But you guys keep living in the
what is life?
I think the key mission of the right should be advocating to the extent possible for a return to traditional society 1. Making clear the benefits to society stable nuclear families (children raised in this environment are much more successful and stable, both mentally and emotionally) 2. In the same way, making clear the benefit to society of socially complex homogenous communities. For all this talk of diversity, socially our communities are not complex at all as the delusion of americans is that all are equal, not just created equal. 3. Abandon the taboo of white pan-european self love. Self love is widely understood as a keystone of sound mental health, and yet it is forbidden for whites to openly self love any aspect of themselves that related to race, which heritage and race are the most essential aspects of identity.
If we get these 3 correct, imo then everything else falls into place.
nothing ever falls into place
anaomalies
Did you read what I said or just knee jerk to one expression I used
i read none of it
cause its the internet
:)
thank you for wasting ample amounts of your time writing something that will be read by 1-3 people :)
It took me under a minute. Work on your WPM, brainlet