however the grounds on which the APA and generally major institutions promoted "born this way" were simply on retarded science

rage is normal lol

@killsometime No, it's more about not normalizing something, which is the point people miss.

"BUT IT WILL STILL HAPPEN"

The aim is not to eliminate it completely, the aim is to reduce it

Because that always works

🤦

Same

@killsometime No, marriage is between man and woman with the goal of creating and raising healthy members of society, who will continue the cycle. Marriage is exclusive in its ability to produce life. Homosexuals simply arent monogamous most of the time and often cheat in their marriages to a ludicrous degree. As razorlaze says normalization is harmful. Adoption follows the trend.

Okay, here's an example: Prostitution @killsometime

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We still have prostitution despite it being illegal

As is to be expected

You will never eliminate something 100%

and if it were legal there'd be much more

But what criminalizing it has done, is it has significantly reduced the spread of it

or the occurrence of it

But you aren’t criminalizing gay sex

That’s not what you said

You said gay marriage and adoption

It's part of a wide range of discussion

I would go the Russian route where all public displays of homosexuality are forbidden

marriage doesn't have a set purpose in a secular society

but wouldnt do anything in private

Because it's redundant to go that far

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@21tagtmeiern it used to

but now it's little more than an economic union

yeah well idc

yeah well, you will when you get divorced

banning it in privacy would just mean people would do it privately anyways except they'd be more careful

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ok look i'm debated out this weekend i'll talk about this tomorrow

I’m a libertarian. Anytime the government walks into someone’s life and tells them what they are supposed to do in their private life is seen as negative. It isn’t the job of the government to forbid any consenting relationship of any kind. Its also not the responsibility of the government to pay for your treatment cause you’re sick with an STD.

Libertarianism is gay

🤷‍♂️

so I see the connection

Tough shit then

Do you like Pinochet @killsometime

Pinochet is a discount Franco really

*shit

All I know about him is free helicopter rides

Libertarians are the creationists of economics