Message from @SilverLining

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2018-09-17 22:53:41 UTC  

and if it's treated right,

2018-09-17 22:53:48 UTC  

it can benefit everyone,

2018-09-17 22:53:54 UTC  

it could be abused in many ways if it is not properly done

2018-09-17 22:53:58 UTC  

but most things turn sour.

2018-09-17 22:54:10 UTC  

I don't think average people are willing to take that chance.

2018-09-17 22:54:16 UTC  

i think it will be abused, which is why we're better off without it

2018-09-17 22:54:33 UTC  

It would be nice to have a better phone though.

2018-09-17 22:55:23 UTC  

it probably will come into fruition, i'd say

2018-09-17 22:55:33 UTC  

and i think it's unfortunate

2018-09-17 22:56:01 UTC  

Human nature itself leans negative.

2018-09-17 22:56:27 UTC  

We'd most likely use advances in trans-humanism for evil needs.

2018-09-17 22:56:31 UTC  

phone-chips will be manufactured into our bodies, so outside agencies, like governments, can keep track of us at all times

2018-09-17 22:56:48 UTC  

yea evil needs for sure

2018-09-17 22:57:27 UTC  

technology is great and all, but shouldn't be worshipped to the point where we want to merge our identity and consciousness with it

2018-09-17 22:57:46 UTC  

I think this guy gives a good POV on transhumanism, seeing as how he is one himself.

2018-09-17 22:59:07 UTC  

if biomedical technology is an aspect of transhumanism, then i'm not against all aspects of transhumanism

2018-09-17 22:59:07 UTC  

As in he follows the philosophy of Transhumanism?

2018-09-17 22:59:14 UTC  

More or less.

2018-09-17 23:00:04 UTC  

Also that description
"Will Artificial Wombs end gender warfare" makes me a bit sceptical

2018-09-17 23:00:38 UTC  

Transhumanism is solely a positive.

2018-09-17 23:00:44 UTC  

Emphasis on trans.

2018-09-17 23:00:50 UTC  

*Trans* transhumanism.

2018-09-17 23:01:21 UTC  

All in all, this was a quite good question

2018-09-17 23:01:36 UTC  

definitely I think goes under-discussed.

2018-09-17 23:01:47 UTC  

I don't entirely understand the cons of transhumanism

2018-09-17 23:02:18 UTC  

The only potential downside I could see revolves around elitism in the distribution of technologies, increasing economic inequalities

2018-09-17 23:04:00 UTC  

i think 'expanding our mental limitations' with technology could entail forfeiting certain personal freedoms

2018-09-17 23:04:36 UTC  

Well wouldn't becoming trans be null if we can solidify what gender our children will become?

2018-09-17 23:05:53 UTC  

Maybe.

2018-09-17 23:06:06 UTC  

Unless that becomes a option in it of itself.

2018-09-17 23:06:48 UTC  

Because if the idea that "someone born a man internally wants to be a woman" is real, then won't parents just reinforce the aspects that make someone a man or woman?

2018-09-17 23:08:52 UTC  

from my perspective making minds and consciousness subject to computer-analysis and modification, which is a potential road that i've heard some transhumanists be open towards, could bring on a whole range of issues, including thought-policing by governments and corporations, government rewiring of individual desires and values, loss of personal autonomy

2018-09-17 23:09:54 UTC  

True that is a very real possibility.
It would be *Brave New World* turned to 11

2018-09-17 23:11:48 UTC  

Brave New World is a great example. Not all dystopias look ugly, and utopias come at a price

2018-09-17 23:13:04 UTC  

I actually have it on PDF if you want. I'll put it in Archive

2018-09-17 23:13:46 UTC  
2018-09-17 23:14:42 UTC  

oh nice, thanks

2018-09-17 23:26:44 UTC  

The problem with humanity lies in our souls, not our abilities. Not sure what goals of transhumanism exactly we are debating as there are huge amounts of goals, but as a movement it basically represents a diametrical opposition to the thrust of Christianity: it is unapologetically pro human in every facet. It is often atheistic and represents a pointed fear of death. To the extent that it wishes to enhance human achievement, the same critiques can be said, but here at least it’s a double edged sword in the same way that all technology advances human power: some will use it for good and some for bad

2018-09-17 23:27:42 UTC  

But I think you can split transhumanism into at least two separate goals: extend the capabilities of humans, and enhance human longevity. Any general categories missing?

2018-09-17 23:29:13 UTC  

Not that i know of. Unless you consider fully becoming a machine to be a seperate category