Message from @Zayan Watchel

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2018-09-23 21:07:57 UTC  

Just an occasional thing

2018-09-23 21:08:10 UTC  

like, going to the movies with your family, paid for by your employer

2018-09-23 21:08:11 UTC  

Government funded fun? That should happen never.

2018-09-23 21:08:20 UTC  

A flat tax is not good in practice

2018-09-23 21:08:22 UTC  

You can use your own money.

2018-09-23 21:08:23 UTC  

I don't view it as fun

2018-09-23 21:08:32 UTC  

it encourages people to have families

2018-09-23 21:08:37 UTC  

Going to the movies?

2018-09-23 21:08:59 UTC  

I'll be back in 10 minutes.

2018-09-23 21:09:11 UTC  

Tax Benefits for a stable nuclear family with kids is ideal

2018-09-23 21:13:27 UTC  

When people have to say "Im not a nazi" before agreeing with any idea ever implemented in Nazi Germany, even if it was used in other places. <:hangthink:487681962505404416> <:hangthink:487681962505404416> <:hangthink:487681962505404416>

2018-09-23 21:15:57 UTC  

Well, tbqh

2018-09-23 21:16:01 UTC  

National Socialism is gay

2018-09-23 21:16:06 UTC  

Back.

2018-09-23 21:16:28 UTC  

As I was saying, going to the movies on taxpayer money is stupid.

2018-09-23 21:16:36 UTC  

it wasn't on taxpayer money

2018-09-23 21:16:40 UTC  

If you make money on the market you can pay yourself.

2018-09-23 21:16:51 UTC  

Wasn't it gov funded?

2018-09-23 21:17:03 UTC  

I could be wrong about how it worked, but from what I remember

2018-09-23 21:17:28 UTC  

Most employees were working like, over 50 hours a week, and, in exchange, the company they worked for would pay for leisure activities so they could spent time with their family

2018-09-23 21:17:53 UTC  

Why do the companies need to? Doesn't the employer pay a paycheck?

2018-09-23 21:18:19 UTC  

It was to encourage them to spend time with their family

2018-09-23 21:18:38 UTC  

Maybe the thought was

2018-09-23 21:18:40 UTC  

They don't do it normally? If they don't, that's a social issue. The social order shouldn't be decided by the state.

2018-09-23 21:18:54 UTC  

"Wow, I can get paid to spend time with my family, I wish had children"

2018-09-23 21:19:09 UTC  

That is a perverse incentive.

2018-09-23 21:19:26 UTC  

People want to have children because of biology, why does the government need to help that?

2018-09-23 21:19:50 UTC  

I don't know what exactly the motivation was, I just know that it was a thing for the time, I think this was in the middle of the depression

2018-09-23 21:19:50 UTC  

People have children *right now* just fine, tax incentives or no.

2018-09-23 21:20:17 UTC  

Why does it need to exist? Are you supporting it? What I'm really getting at is *why* is this your view on the role of government.

2018-09-23 21:25:26 UTC  

Well, people have less kids now than ever before, but that's because we thought it was a good idea to let women have careers

It doesn't really *have* to exist, as for the actual implementation, to be quite honest, I don't really know. But it is something I would get behind if I was sure it would be feasible, if that answers your question, so yes.

And, as for why, because the state should foster a society that is family centered.

2018-09-23 21:26:10 UTC  

So if we're forcing people to pay for other people to go to the movies... no problem, none at all? If it doesn't have to exist, it shouldn't.

2018-09-23 21:26:23 UTC  

But *why* should the state do this.

2018-09-23 21:26:52 UTC  

I know all these "whys" sound redundant, but it's important, I'm trying to get right to the core here.

2018-09-23 21:27:54 UTC  

I wouldn't word it as "going to the movies"

2018-09-23 21:28:22 UTC  

Doing whatever then.

2018-09-23 21:28:34 UTC  

Paying people to spend time with their family is the goal anyway, the movie thing was just a generic example

2018-09-23 21:29:06 UTC  

I know. But why do they need additional incentive to do this? We have a biological drive to have kids. Just because we have less kids, doesn't mean it's a problem.

2018-09-23 21:29:07 UTC  

" If it doesn't have to exist, it shouldn't."

Monuments don't have to exist, but they do

2018-09-23 21:29:24 UTC  

People used to have LOTS of kids in the past, just saying we have less doesn't expose a problem.

2018-09-23 21:29:43 UTC  

I was speaking specifically about government incentives.