and the osman turks might have been scattered to the winds but the turkish population wasnt going anywhere even if the timurids slapped their shit

someone else would have assumed power i'd imagine

@Jack12 I never said they would take Anatolia. I said they might carve up the Balkans

wel lthe balkans were always shitty and fractured, the italians might have been able to exercise *some* control over the dalmatian coastline but as far as force projection inland <:Doubt:419484038613696532>

also you would have hungary, wallachia, etc vying for control as well

assuming the local macedonians and bulgarians dont go "nuh uh we kingdom now"

Byzantium may take Adrionople and Thessolonikki, Bulgaria might become a nation again(or wallachia/Hungary), Serbia might restart the Serbian Empire. I think Karaman could be in a position to take most of Anatolia. Maybe the Byzantines might get the Christian coast, and Genoa might take some land to protect their Crimean colony

>byzantium

weak and ineffectual even after the restoration of the 1260's

barely a kingdom, much less an empire at that point

4th crusade permanently hobbled the romans

Yes

they had the greek core areas but little else, some outposts on the black sea

bulgaria would def pop up and be annoying, 9-11th centuries they were just constantly rebelling and starting shit

genoa got fucked by the black death anyway

as for anatolia, who knows but it just became a chaotic frontier anyway post-manzikert even after the turks took over

cilicia to armenia was just bandit hell

fortified towns everywhere

anything west of that semi normal but never the way it was under the romans

I don't deny Byzantium was weak.

But they probably might take a tiny bit of Territory

they were in steady and permanent decline

they might have retained greek lands through thessaly, attica, etc but wouldnt have good strong control of the aegean or mediterranean

it was a matter of time before they faded out, 1453 was just a formality

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

What is the best way to ensure a fair and free speech internet for all, or should the internet be let loose to corporations?

If the interner should at all exist, then it should be as national *intra*net.

And be heavily censored.

intranet?

The internet should be regulated in a way to ensure free speech on giant platforms, such as facebook, youtube, twitter, etc.

Yes, it's like the internet but limited to a certain place. In this case a nation.

@Vilhelmsson What if i want to talk to other countries

let it loose to the corps, people will take their money to one that is the most fair

I doubt many people would willingly pay to have their speech silenced

That's an extremely optimistic view

people that seriously advocate for government censorship don't realize that their views could be getting censored as well

If you let it loose, near instantly platforms like google, youtube, facebook, twitter, would go full hammer on free speech

and only allow speech they like

and their views would lead to an orwellian dystopia

"atleast its not the goberment"

then people can go to websites that don't

which have virtually no viewbase compared to the giant