Message from @Red Car

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2018-12-01 21:37:01 UTC  

No

2018-12-01 21:37:03 UTC  

Yes in a weird sense

2018-12-01 21:37:04 UTC  

No

2018-12-01 21:37:04 UTC  

no

2018-12-01 21:37:06 UTC  

No

2018-12-01 21:37:07 UTC  

oof

2018-12-01 21:37:08 UTC  

fuck no

2018-12-01 21:37:10 UTC  

No

2018-12-01 21:37:12 UTC  

universality is a spook

2018-12-01 21:37:13 UTC  

absolutely not

2018-12-01 21:37:15 UTC  

no

2018-12-01 21:37:16 UTC  

OOF

2018-12-01 21:37:19 UTC  

It's possible. You can implement it....your country just won't last very long.

2018-12-01 21:37:21 UTC  

OOOOOOfof

2018-12-01 21:37:24 UTC  

no

2018-12-01 21:37:34 UTC  

nope

2018-12-01 21:37:50 UTC  

because not all jobs have the same responsibilities

2018-12-01 21:38:04 UTC  

This sort of mindset results in a number of lost businesses and less open job positions because each business would have to meet a threshold for each employee they take on.

2018-12-01 21:38:21 UTC  

oil rig workers shouldn't be paid the same as burgerflippers

2018-12-01 21:38:36 UTC  

if a system was implemented in a highly advanced tech state

2018-12-01 21:38:40 UTC  

No... there is always work to be done. People can be put to work doing almost anything on behalf of the nation

2018-12-01 21:38:50 UTC  

where every person manages to benefit the nation with every action

2018-12-01 21:38:51 UTC  

then yes

2018-12-01 21:38:58 UTC  

a very small UBI

2018-12-01 21:39:01 UTC  

would be beneficial

2018-12-01 21:39:13 UTC  

however

2018-12-01 21:39:14 UTC  

If social security is inevitable then yes as it's cheaper in costs due to less administrative work. Though the downside is that drug addicts and the like will have access to it

2018-12-01 21:39:34 UTC  

Eg if a living wage is £22k a year

2018-12-01 21:39:39 UTC  

It would be a good idea, if not for the fact that the left will ruin it, make it way too high, and destroy the incentive to find work and actually put value to the currency of UBI

2018-12-01 21:39:44 UTC  

then the UBI should be £5K a year

2018-12-01 21:39:56 UTC  

meaning peeps still need to work

2018-12-01 21:40:07 UTC  

but its a way to make them value hte government

2018-12-01 21:40:12 UTC  

eg in their minds its free money

2018-12-01 21:40:15 UTC  

UBI would only be realistic in a hyper-automated society where robots do most of the work

2018-12-01 21:40:25 UTC  

But the economy would have to be surplus based

2018-12-01 21:40:27 UTC  

A right winger reforming social security to give everyone enough to live on would be a fine idea, better than the welfare state as it currently exists now, but it just won't be handled well

2018-12-01 21:40:37 UTC  

and not debt based as it is today

2018-12-01 21:40:42 UTC  

eg

2018-12-01 21:40:47 UTC  

in a debt based economy

2018-12-01 21:40:51 UTC  

all money must be sppent

2018-12-01 21:40:55 UTC  

but in a surplus based