Message from @Reb Trump
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no one could run on alcohol constantly, everyone would die at 30 and be too retarded to work the land.
it has to take a ritualistic or mdicinal quality to it again, otherwise its gonna simply continue to be abused
Why ritualistic?
because rituals command respect, add a spiritual level and make the substance in essence part of the ethereal. To abuse it is essentially to attempt to cheat spirituality or what is socially acceptable in meetings etc. Generally this means people will most likely externally generate pressure to obey the unwritten spiritual moral laws
altenratively some countries legit need prohibition to reduce alcoholism
and liver cirhossis
Ah
So the ritual aspect keeps it from being abused or at least deters abuse of it.
yes
Negative
I don’t think alcohol corrupts people besides major alcoholics#
the question's too simplistic - modernity has had a negative effect and that's what makes alcohol abuse so pervasive, alcohol in small amounts, particularly red wine for males, has positive/neutral effects on one's health
more "trad" autism
the past was very moral
public executions
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greek homosexuality
public flogging
this reminds me of that episode of Bullshit!
The west must be destroyed
Islam gang am I right?
ahamdelelah
But the point about the past is that although it had many errors it's errors were not being morally degenerate, no one idealizes the greeks for being queers or the brutality of the dark age. They idealize the moral purity which was in many ways an illusion but it still stands as something worth pursuing.
` it's errors were not being morally degenerate`
I just listed them
your latter point is correct
that you guys don't idealize those aspects
at least, some of you don't
Take the puritans for example
then play that game with today
idealize what's moral today
and ignore what's not
they were not pedos, queers or other things.
But they were still fucked up. Most traditionalists ignore how truly terrible the past was but they don't want to return to those things simply because it was tradition.
yes, there was a subset of westerners at a segment of time that fits your larping
I don't even know if that's true
I don't know enough about puritans
They were very radical protestants who settled in America
but let's assume they were "pure"