yes

Negative

I don’t think alcohol corrupts people besides major alcoholics#

the question's too simplistic - modernity has had a negative effect and that's what makes alcohol abuse so pervasive, alcohol in small amounts, particularly red wine for males, has positive/neutral effects on one's health

more "trad" autism

the past was very moral

public executions

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greek homosexuality

public flogging

this reminds me of that episode of Bullshit!

about those who think the past was so great

The west must be destroyed

Islam gang am I right?

ahamdelelah

But the point about the past is that although it had many errors it's errors were not being morally degenerate, no one idealizes the greeks for being queers or the brutality of the dark age. They idealize the moral purity which was in many ways an illusion but it still stands as something worth pursuing.

` it's errors were not being morally degenerate`

I just listed them

your latter point is correct

that you guys don't idealize those aspects

at least, some of you don't

Take the puritans for example

then play that game with today

idealize what's moral today

and ignore what's not

they were not pedos, queers or other things.

But they were still fucked up. Most traditionalists ignore how truly terrible the past was but they don't want to return to those things simply because it was tradition.

yes, there was a subset of westerners at a segment of time that fits your larping

I don't even know if that's true

I don't know enough about puritans

They were very radical protestants who settled in America

but let's assume they were "pure"

Same people who burned witches

The Puritans

more like

the gay fags

rt

I am not saying you are wrong

I am saying that traditionalists don't idealize the past as whole but rather certain aspects of the past

"tradition" is then a big misnomer for it

why create a new label