Message from @Reb Trump

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2019-01-07 01:08:52 UTC  

water was usually boiled

2019-01-07 01:08:58 UTC  

or taken from "safe" sources

2019-01-07 01:09:31 UTC  

no one could run on alcohol constantly, everyone would die at 30 and be too retarded to work the land.

2019-01-07 01:09:50 UTC  

it has to take a ritualistic or mdicinal quality to it again, otherwise its gonna simply continue to be abused

2019-01-07 01:17:47 UTC  

Why ritualistic?

2019-01-07 01:21:51 UTC  

because rituals command respect, add a spiritual level and make the substance in essence part of the ethereal. To abuse it is essentially to attempt to cheat spirituality or what is socially acceptable in meetings etc. Generally this means people will most likely externally generate pressure to obey the unwritten spiritual moral laws

2019-01-07 01:22:06 UTC  

altenratively some countries legit need prohibition to reduce alcoholism

2019-01-07 01:22:16 UTC  

and liver cirhossis

2019-01-07 02:16:49 UTC  

Ah

2019-01-07 02:17:13 UTC  

So the ritual aspect keeps it from being abused or at least deters abuse of it.

2019-01-07 02:29:19 UTC  

yes

2019-01-07 11:23:56 UTC  

Negative

2019-01-07 13:09:16 UTC  

I don’t think alcohol corrupts people besides major alcoholics#

2019-01-07 13:24:18 UTC  

the question's too simplistic - modernity has had a negative effect and that's what makes alcohol abuse so pervasive, alcohol in small amounts, particularly red wine for males, has positive/neutral effects on one's health

2019-01-07 14:39:56 UTC  

more "trad" autism

2019-01-07 14:40:34 UTC  

the past was very moral

2019-01-07 14:40:39 UTC  

public executions

2019-01-07 14:40:45 UTC  

<:Chad:476653434637123584>

2019-01-07 14:40:47 UTC  

greek homosexuality

2019-01-07 14:41:16 UTC  

public flogging

2019-01-07 14:41:46 UTC  

this reminds me of that episode of Bullshit!

2019-01-07 14:41:53 UTC  

about those who think the past was so great

2019-01-07 14:42:06 UTC  

The west must be destroyed

2019-01-07 14:42:16 UTC  

Islam gang am I right?

2019-01-07 14:43:24 UTC  

ahamdelelah

2019-01-07 14:44:59 UTC  

But the point about the past is that although it had many errors it's errors were not being morally degenerate, no one idealizes the greeks for being queers or the brutality of the dark age. They idealize the moral purity which was in many ways an illusion but it still stands as something worth pursuing.

2019-01-07 14:45:54 UTC  

` it's errors were not being morally degenerate`

2019-01-07 14:46:02 UTC  

I just listed them

2019-01-07 14:46:18 UTC  

your latter point is correct

2019-01-07 14:46:28 UTC  

that you guys don't idealize those aspects

2019-01-07 14:46:38 UTC  

at least, some of you don't

2019-01-07 14:46:49 UTC  

Take the puritans for example

2019-01-07 14:46:50 UTC  

then play that game with today

2019-01-07 14:46:55 UTC  

idealize what's moral today

2019-01-07 14:46:59 UTC  

and ignore what's not

2019-01-07 14:47:01 UTC  

they were not pedos, queers or other things.

2019-01-07 14:47:38 UTC  

But they were still fucked up. Most traditionalists ignore how truly terrible the past was but they don't want to return to those things simply because it was tradition.

2019-01-07 14:47:46 UTC  

yes, there was a subset of westerners at a segment of time that fits your larping

2019-01-07 14:47:50 UTC  

I don't even know if that's true

2019-01-07 14:47:55 UTC  

I don't know enough about puritans

2019-01-07 14:48:11 UTC  

They were very radical protestants who settled in America