Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-07-29 19:55:54 UTC  

What you do is offer a pathetic sleight of hand with the appropriation of the term socialism by fascists to mean completely different from the mainstream definition of socialism which is Marxian.

2018-07-29 19:55:54 UTC  

Nationalism has existed since the nation state

2018-07-29 19:56:27 UTC  

Nationalism didn't become a school of thought in the 20th century

2018-07-29 19:56:38 UTC  

It has been around forever

2018-07-29 19:56:59 UTC  

How long has the nation state existed? Since the 19th century, with few exceptions.

2018-07-29 19:57:07 UTC  

That is a Cultural Marxist view constructed to delegitimize the nation state

2018-07-29 19:57:26 UTC  

Nation state has been around since the agricultural revolution

2018-07-29 19:57:34 UTC  

Except it hasn't.

2018-07-29 19:57:37 UTC  

Name one.

2018-07-29 19:57:51 UTC  

Egypt

2018-07-29 19:57:56 UTC  

LMAO

2018-07-29 19:57:58 UTC  

China

2018-07-29 19:57:59 UTC  

Terrible example, because it's false.

2018-07-29 19:58:01 UTC  

China???????

2018-07-29 19:58:06 UTC  

Those are not nation states.

2018-07-29 19:58:08 UTC  

Persia

2018-07-29 19:58:13 UTC  

wtffff

2018-07-29 19:58:18 UTC  

these are all nation states

2018-07-29 19:58:19 UTC  

Stop, let me address how you're wrong one at a time.

2018-07-29 19:58:31 UTC  

they have an authority and border

2018-07-29 19:58:38 UTC  

Egypt's identity was religious and shifted through time, the nation was embodied by the dynasty.

2018-07-29 19:58:44 UTC  

no

2018-07-29 19:58:47 UTC  

Persia really has no national identity.

2018-07-29 19:58:52 UTC  

Yes. You are simply blatantly wrong.

2018-07-29 19:58:57 UTC  

those are or where nations

2018-07-29 19:59:01 UTC  

Persia was routinely conquered by foreign entities.

2018-07-29 19:59:09 UTC  

routinely

2018-07-29 19:59:10 UTC  

no

2018-07-29 19:59:10 UTC  

There was no national identity to speak of.

2018-07-29 19:59:15 UTC  

Yes, routinely.

2018-07-29 19:59:29 UTC  

Muh nations came around in 1850

2018-07-29 19:59:36 UTC  

no thats not a thing

2018-07-29 19:59:39 UTC  

Jalayirids, Mongols, Gokturks, Oghuzi Turks, Scythians.

2018-07-29 19:59:43 UTC  

Persia has repeatedly been conquered.

2018-07-29 19:59:45 UTC  

look at european empires

2018-07-29 19:59:56 UTC  

they had nationalism for as long as they where around

2018-07-29 20:00:00 UTC  

look at mercantilism

2018-07-29 20:02:56 UTC  

Mercantilism was based on the acquirement of resources.

2018-07-29 20:03:00 UTC  

Has nothing to do with nationalism.

2018-07-29 20:03:22 UTC  

How about we start by you defining what a nation state is because it clearly is not what an actual nation state is if you think Persia and Egypt and China were nation states.

2018-07-29 20:05:58 UTC  

France was not even a nation before the French Revolution. It was numerous languages and *communal* cultures. People did not speak "French" outside of the Ile-de-France.