Message from @Da_Fish

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2018-07-29 00:11:34 UTC  

^^^^^^

2018-07-29 01:40:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/472941469498343435/wew.jpg

2018-07-29 06:31:38 UTC  

"Kim Jong Hitler"

2018-07-29 06:31:49 UTC  

Where do you noggers come up with these fucken usernames

2018-07-29 09:39:41 UTC  

lmfao

2018-07-29 09:40:30 UTC  

lol

2018-07-29 19:47:30 UTC  

Nationalism has not existed since the beginning of civilization since Anon brought it up.

2018-07-29 19:48:02 UTC  

Nationalism destroyed the Ottoman Empire and resulted in the largely mythical ethnic identity of Romanians and Ukrainians being invented in the 19th century by the literary elite.

2018-07-29 19:48:19 UTC  

The 100 Years War resulted in the national identity of France and England being materialized.

2018-07-29 19:48:32 UTC  

But prior to the 19th century nationalism was basically nonexistent and most identities were communal.

2018-07-29 19:48:49 UTC  

ex. Spain being divided between Castilians, Leonese, Galicians, Catalans, etc.

2018-07-29 19:48:58 UTC  

And Italy having multiple communal identities.

2018-07-29 19:50:41 UTC  

Also when Gentile speaks of socialism he means the mobilization of society. The difference between Marxian socialism and fascist "socialism" (which is wholly appropriated) is that fascism sees the social aspect on the national level and Marxian socialism is exclueionary and reserved for the proletariat. The bourgeoisie the fascist speaks about is liberal interests and decadent foreign powers.

2018-07-29 19:50:50 UTC  

Stop saying fascism is socialism and then offering no further context.

2018-07-29 19:50:52 UTC  
2018-07-29 19:51:02 UTC  

It's low IQ.

2018-07-29 19:55:31 UTC  

"No individuals or groups (political parties, cultural associations, economic unions, social classes) outside the State. Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle."

2018-07-29 19:55:54 UTC  

What you do is offer a pathetic sleight of hand with the appropriation of the term socialism by fascists to mean completely different from the mainstream definition of socialism which is Marxian.

2018-07-29 19:55:54 UTC  

Nationalism has existed since the nation state

2018-07-29 19:56:27 UTC  

Nationalism didn't become a school of thought in the 20th century

2018-07-29 19:56:38 UTC  

It has been around forever

2018-07-29 19:56:59 UTC  

How long has the nation state existed? Since the 19th century, with few exceptions.

2018-07-29 19:57:07 UTC  

That is a Cultural Marxist view constructed to delegitimize the nation state

2018-07-29 19:57:26 UTC  

Nation state has been around since the agricultural revolution

2018-07-29 19:57:34 UTC  

Except it hasn't.

2018-07-29 19:57:37 UTC  

Name one.

2018-07-29 19:57:51 UTC  

Egypt

2018-07-29 19:57:56 UTC  

LMAO

2018-07-29 19:57:58 UTC  

China

2018-07-29 19:57:59 UTC  

Terrible example, because it's false.

2018-07-29 19:58:01 UTC  

China???????

2018-07-29 19:58:06 UTC  

Those are not nation states.

2018-07-29 19:58:08 UTC  

Persia

2018-07-29 19:58:13 UTC  

wtffff

2018-07-29 19:58:18 UTC  

these are all nation states

2018-07-29 19:58:19 UTC  

Stop, let me address how you're wrong one at a time.

2018-07-29 19:58:31 UTC  

they have an authority and border

2018-07-29 19:58:38 UTC  

Egypt's identity was religious and shifted through time, the nation was embodied by the dynasty.

2018-07-29 19:58:44 UTC  

no

2018-07-29 19:58:47 UTC  

Persia really has no national identity.

2018-07-29 19:58:52 UTC  

Yes. You are simply blatantly wrong.