Message from @Chow Mein

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2018-08-05 17:57:07 UTC  

haha

2018-08-05 17:57:25 UTC  
2018-08-05 17:59:25 UTC  

You could have an ecumenical council that gives guidance to legislators and give us guidance to people on law - a christian-based ecumenical council that allows different sects to sit at the table sects of Christianity and that Christian Department would inform spiritual guidance morality guidance on those who requested it

2018-08-05 17:59:41 UTC  

A spiritual FDA that gives moral and spiritual health to the nation

2018-08-05 18:00:15 UTC  

In defining Christianity as the official Faith you weren't requiring people to be Christians but you are keeping that territory free of competing religions

2018-08-05 18:00:18 UTC  

no

2018-08-05 18:00:33 UTC  

And that is the biggest advantage

2018-08-05 18:00:36 UTC  

you don't need religious authorities in government

2018-08-05 18:00:47 UTC  

You need churches reinforcing western values

2018-08-05 18:00:51 UTC  

Besides that bureaucratizing religion like that is gay

2018-08-05 18:00:54 UTC  

not by order of the state

2018-08-05 18:01:02 UTC  

I disagree I think you could be done correctly that would make things better

2018-08-05 18:01:43 UTC  

And i doubt having an ecumenical counsel will actually get anything done. People have been trying for centuries to cut across sectarian lines and nothing has really been shown for it

2018-08-05 18:02:10 UTC  

Council of Nicea was a disaster

2018-08-05 18:02:15 UTC  

bribes

2018-08-05 18:02:21 UTC  

violence

2018-08-05 18:02:26 UTC  

corruption

2018-08-05 18:02:32 UTC  

Within Christianity..... Not with other religions

2018-08-05 18:02:57 UTC  

Look I mean you could look at examples of types of government that have failed in the past what we're talking about here is a new version keeping in mind the problems of the past

2018-08-05 18:03:03 UTC  

You did say a "Christian based ecumenical counsel"

2018-08-05 18:03:12 UTC  

And yeah other religions are just as fractured as Christianity

2018-08-05 18:03:14 UTC  

also when you speak of bribes corruption that sort of thing that is going to happen in any system you devise you cannot devise a system that won't have bribery and Corruption

2018-08-05 18:03:20 UTC  

Hinduism has thousands of sects as well

2018-08-05 18:03:32 UTC  

Why care about Hinduism.

2018-08-05 18:03:42 UTC  

Christian Ecumenism doesn't work well

2018-08-05 18:03:51 UTC  

it has worked very few times

2018-08-05 18:04:23 UTC  

the point is is there a problems we Face from perversion and some version from foreign religions and foreign moralities or even non moral systems so we have to look at that and make a decision we can't just stay in Perpetual indecision

2018-08-05 18:04:45 UTC  

You need freedom of religion

2018-08-05 18:04:47 UTC  

that is the essence of liberal constitutional democracy that we have now is that it is marked by Perpetual indecision and people with lack of power to actually affect any change

2018-08-05 18:04:51 UTC  

but restriction of cults

2018-08-05 18:05:27 UTC  

You can have freedom of religion but the territory has to have some definition and it has to be Define of the European spirituality

2018-08-05 18:05:40 UTC  

The culture has simply changed. Perhaps Christianity isnt the religion the West needs anymore

2018-08-05 18:05:55 UTC  

We can't have institutions of the state accommodating foreign spirituality we can't have the territory being converted and institutions of foreign religions being built within our territory

2018-08-05 18:06:18 UTC  

Much in the same way Christianity supplanted Roman paganism perhaps Christianity will be supplanted by something else

2018-08-05 18:06:30 UTC  

Catholicism did

2018-08-05 18:07:15 UTC  

Why should we try and do that.... To what would you welcome to replace Christianity with. I think that's a rather short-sighted View.... and leads to the non view or the non value are the directionless state that we have now that is being actively subverted by people who do not have the same doubt about what their religion is that you do

2018-08-05 18:07:30 UTC  

Do you think Islam or Jews or Hindus have the self-doubt about whether their religion is the right path for their people

2018-08-05 18:07:35 UTC  

No they don't

2018-08-05 18:07:48 UTC  

And they are here taking and convincing and minimizing Christians to their own self-doubt

2018-08-05 18:08:12 UTC  

Westernized Jews and Hindus do. Religion exists to serve specific needs and the way our culture is changing these needs are being served in other ways

2018-08-05 18:08:15 UTC  

It's time we be a little bit more defensive of our Traditions our culture are race and yes even or spirituality it is ours if we want to change it we can change it but we don't need it changed from without we don't need it changed by a foreign influence