I disagree I think you could be done correctly that would make things better

And i doubt having an ecumenical counsel will actually get anything done. People have been trying for centuries to cut across sectarian lines and nothing has really been shown for it

Council of Nicea was a disaster

bribes

violence

corruption

Within Christianity..... Not with other religions

Look I mean you could look at examples of types of government that have failed in the past what we're talking about here is a new version keeping in mind the problems of the past

You did say a "Christian based ecumenical counsel"

And yeah other religions are just as fractured as Christianity

also when you speak of bribes corruption that sort of thing that is going to happen in any system you devise you cannot devise a system that won't have bribery and Corruption

Hinduism has thousands of sects as well

Why care about Hinduism.

Christian Ecumenism doesn't work well

it has worked very few times

the point is is there a problems we Face from perversion and some version from foreign religions and foreign moralities or even non moral systems so we have to look at that and make a decision we can't just stay in Perpetual indecision

You need freedom of religion

that is the essence of liberal constitutional democracy that we have now is that it is marked by Perpetual indecision and people with lack of power to actually affect any change

but restriction of cults

You can have freedom of religion but the territory has to have some definition and it has to be Define of the European spirituality

The culture has simply changed. Perhaps Christianity isnt the religion the West needs anymore

We can't have institutions of the state accommodating foreign spirituality we can't have the territory being converted and institutions of foreign religions being built within our territory

Much in the same way Christianity supplanted Roman paganism perhaps Christianity will be supplanted by something else

Catholicism did

Why should we try and do that.... To what would you welcome to replace Christianity with. I think that's a rather short-sighted View.... and leads to the non view or the non value are the directionless state that we have now that is being actively subverted by people who do not have the same doubt about what their religion is that you do

Do you think Islam or Jews or Hindus have the self-doubt about whether their religion is the right path for their people

No they don't

And they are here taking and convincing and minimizing Christians to their own self-doubt

Westernized Jews and Hindus do. Religion exists to serve specific needs and the way our culture is changing these needs are being served in other ways

It's time we be a little bit more defensive of our Traditions our culture are race and yes even or spirituality it is ours if we want to change it we can change it but we don't need it changed from without we don't need it changed by a foreign influence

Why would you even welcome that

Are you masochistic

Freedom of religion is essential

except for jews

but it must not be threatening to national security

No it's not essential it's a nicety we need to have our territory defined spiritually otherwise prepared to be conquered

I'm saying that it is impractical to keep holding onto something that may have run its course

Multi religious empires have thrived

and fallen

what is your point?

so has everything