Message from @ham addition

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2018-09-10 19:33:04 UTC  

which if you think bernie is then idrk what to say to you

2018-09-10 19:48:10 UTC  

I didn't say he was full on Communist.
I said he was Democratic Socialist (which honestly barley differs from normal Socialism)

2018-09-10 19:49:20 UTC  

he's a social democrat whose ideology is clearly distinct from generic socialism

2018-09-10 19:49:59 UTC  

I mean i know he isn't planning to usurp the Liberal economic system in place within the US.

2018-09-10 19:53:02 UTC  

@21tagtmeiern socdems are Socialists

2018-09-10 19:53:28 UTC  

i guess marx would say so

2018-09-10 19:53:29 UTC  

idk

2018-09-10 19:53:51 UTC  

"petty-bourgeoisie socialism"

2018-09-10 19:54:57 UTC  

Most likely

2018-09-10 19:55:19 UTC  

@ham addition Bernie is a Jew

2018-09-10 19:55:25 UTC  

That is his political position

2018-09-10 20:03:39 UTC  

They finally took down r/milliondollarextreme

2018-09-10 20:10:59 UTC  

huh that's odd because his political beliefs seem to have fuck all whatsoever to do with judaism

2018-09-10 20:16:33 UTC  

Subversion

2018-09-10 20:39:57 UTC  

@Earl of Morrrrgantown did you seriously make a question with half the answers being "jews control the world"

2018-09-10 21:28:16 UTC  

Yes he did

2018-09-10 21:28:26 UTC  

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2018-09-10 21:33:40 UTC  

@L0GAN where's the lie

2018-09-10 22:26:11 UTC  

these poll questions are shit

2018-09-10 22:27:08 UTC  

The questions aren't, the options are

2018-09-10 22:27:16 UTC  

true

2018-09-10 22:28:53 UTC  

Why can't I choose closed borders? No immigrants

2018-09-10 22:29:14 UTC  

the most telling sign imo is the fact that the star of david was used for israel rather than the israeli flag therefore implying that that option is just 'jews'

2018-09-10 22:29:36 UTC  

What if I don't believe anyone controls the world?

2018-09-10 22:29:56 UTC  

yeah

2018-09-10 22:30:01 UTC  

By Israel they mean Zionists probably

2018-09-10 22:30:08 UTC  

not everything is a conspiracy 🤔

2018-09-10 22:30:59 UTC  

But a not all Jews are Zionists

2018-09-10 22:31:05 UTC  

yeah

2018-09-10 22:31:20 UTC  

the implications are pretty obvious though 🤷

2018-09-10 22:31:55 UTC  

This is why polling is always biased

2018-09-10 22:32:18 UTC  

true but usually they aren't as spectacularly shit as these few

2018-09-10 22:33:50 UTC  

Stop complaining lmao

2018-09-10 22:34:05 UTC  

<#481280286336876554> if you want better polls

2018-09-10 22:34:09 UTC  

It exists for a reason

2018-09-10 22:34:30 UTC  

Or DM pope

2018-09-10 22:35:09 UTC  

I've never looked at that channel before lol

2018-09-11 03:05:47 UTC  

@The Big Oof Sorry i responded late but based on your timing i was asleep then and im busy through most of the day, you failed to mention Brazil and how it's different from Germany or Venezuela.

And weren't you arguing to defend Bernie Sanders when Americans, Europeans and all of his supporters describe him as a "democratic socialist." Lol this socialist, democratic and democracy stuff is all crap anyways and just because it has slight degrees of Capitalism, doesn't mean it's better or that much different from trash.

Lolberts and Conservatives argue over which right wing version or centrist version of Capitalism is better all the time, but the difference is none of them hold any anything to democracy and liberal socialism.
China has capitalism in it's socialism too, granted a different version.

In social driven democratic countries, people have less business ownership and less property rights than USA common knowledge and America is a mixed economy.

2018-09-11 17:51:49 UTC  

@! Blanc Spooky Lowee "you failed to mention Brazil and how it's different from Germany or Venezuela."

1. Because it doesn't really take away from my point, like at all, if I mention Venezuela and Germany, but not Brazil. By the same standard, you never addressed my point about social democracies being driven by private enterprise, so I guess coverage isn't something you really care about.
2. Because I don't know a lot about the Brazilian economy.


"And weren't you arguing to defend Bernie Sanders when Americans"

You should feel free to quote me when I defended Bernie Sanders. I'll wait on that, because it never happened.

They describe him as a "Democratic Socialist" because that's what he calls himself, and he himself is an idiot who doesn't know what socialism is. He thinks "socialism" is the same thing as having "social programs" and state intervention, and his supporters think the same thing as well, which is why they think all mixed economies are socialist.

Case in point: Bernie thinks Denmark and Scandinavia are socialist countries.

The Nazis called themselves "National Socialists" because they had trouble finding a name for their ideology, and so did their supporters, were they socialists?

"But it's in the name!" is a weak point. If I went around calling myself a capitalist, and my supporters called me a capitalist because I claimed I was, but supported nationalizing all industry, by the standard you yourself just set, I am a capitalist.

No, it doesn't work like that.

The rest of this seems to be rooted in the fact you think I'm a socialist or that I somehow like Bernie Sanders despite never saying I did.

2018-09-11 17:53:22 UTC  

like what is this

2018-09-11 18:00:11 UTC  

Nobody defended Bernie Sanders