Message from @Bogatyr Bogumir

Discord ID: 489522418574950400


2018-09-12 19:44:49 UTC  

For example perhaps society may decide to revoke the citizenship of new immigrants who gained it over the last 10 years because these administrations were deemed ilegitimate

2018-09-12 19:45:13 UTC  

But that's a violation of their rights...but rights are a dubious fluid conceot

2018-09-12 19:45:23 UTC  

So you know what high heels are?

2018-09-12 19:45:38 UTC  

And you know what cobble is.

2018-09-12 19:45:40 UTC  

I mean in my opinion tha tis valid

2018-09-12 19:45:48 UTC  

immigrants inherit the granted rights of their forefathers

2018-09-12 19:45:55 UTC  

Put the two together and you have?

2018-09-12 19:46:07 UTC  

I mena a lot depends on intent

2018-09-12 19:46:07 UTC  

A reckless behavior that is dangerous.

2018-09-12 19:46:29 UTC  

However, I am not worried about this hypothetical because we know the justice system always favors women and is extra lenient on them

2018-09-12 19:46:38 UTC  

Always eh

2018-09-12 19:46:41 UTC  

Then it would be fine.

2018-09-12 19:46:43 UTC  

there are behaviours that are reasonable to be ignorant of how reckless they are and others that are not

2018-09-12 19:46:51 UTC  

You couldn't prove she knew this would kill the child.

2018-09-12 19:46:57 UTC  

So she gets away with it.

2018-09-12 19:46:59 UTC  

I see

2018-09-12 19:47:02 UTC  

That's interesting.

2018-09-12 19:47:05 UTC  

I love how (the last 50 years) is now equal to all of human history

2018-09-12 19:47:12 UTC  

Lie detectors exist

2018-09-12 19:47:17 UTC  

Like people can't even imagine that it may be different one day

2018-09-12 19:47:19 UTC  

I mean they dont work is the issue

2018-09-12 19:47:23 UTC  

Not really.

2018-09-12 19:47:44 UTC  

They're unreliable.

2018-09-12 19:47:47 UTC  

they can often give false positives which is an issue, its not conclusive enough but its a basis to press an issue

2018-09-12 19:48:21 UTC  

"I did not kill john doe" *Detector detects stress patterns change* "we need to press the matter more"

2018-09-12 19:48:27 UTC  

Hot take: rights are a social construct, nothing more.

2018-09-12 19:48:43 UTC  

that is true i believe

2018-09-12 19:48:47 UTC  

They may be useful for social cohesion within a group of people

2018-09-12 19:48:49 UTC  

Or not

2018-09-12 19:49:47 UTC  

true, however groups tend to drive towards social structures that promote laws that promote group cohesion, and specifically allow purging of members in one way or another, to maintain cohesion

2018-09-12 19:49:54 UTC  

usually banishment

2018-09-12 19:51:32 UTC  

If a right serves a purpose we want then it is a useful tool. If it does not then it's a hindrance. That's what everyone thinks deep down

2018-09-12 19:52:01 UTC  

And yes they can be changed obviously they're changing all the time

2018-09-12 19:52:07 UTC  

I think we should bring back exile

2018-09-12 19:52:23 UTC  

Sure

2018-09-12 19:52:32 UTC  

Become a vagrant, and a vagabond.

2018-09-12 19:52:41 UTC  

Frowned upon everywhere you go.

2018-09-12 19:53:23 UTC  

I guess that person could just claim refugee status though.

2018-09-12 19:53:52 UTC  

Well if we're accepting refugees from around the world it will be hard to exile any

2018-09-12 19:54:02 UTC  

They'll just come back as refugees

2018-09-12 19:54:22 UTC  

Well, you can't go to a country you have be exiled from...