Message from @SilverLining
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He thought it would make the world better, no?
He strove to make Aryans/Germanics happy
Not all people
I mean, he didn't intend to eliminate the slavs, iirc
he intended to use them as slave labor
It's striving to increase the happiness of a particular group
Rather than of everyone
"Kinda don't think white supremacists care much about how happy non-whites are"
You're looking at it the wrong way, they believe helping other races is going to harm more people than help
So like
Lynching African Americans isn't making African Americans less happy
You can easily argue they intend to make certain subsets happier
But not humanity as a whole
Well those people do it with the intention of "keeping blacks in their place" and from "hurting white people" etc
Most evil men throughout history had a selfless aspect to their ideology @SilverLining
Russian Empire should be revived
some kind, at least
Why do you think Hitler killed so many people?
Because he thought the world would be better if he did
To "help" another group of people
Again, he didn't really care about said other group
or their wellbeing
Okay, well then that's not the same as "striving for the greatest possible happiness for all"
There is a fine line, but it's there
"the greatest possible happiness for all" would include incorporating everyone, regardless of any innate factors
The logic that classical liberals used, was along the lines of, the poor should not be helped because it will extend their suffering to everyone else, right?
rather than just a portion of people
And what if one argues that doing so is a net negative?
That and also the belief the poor could help themselves. There wasn't any legal subjugation or discrimination against the poor among classical liberals
as in, it hurts more people than it helps
Not to mention, notions of charity
Right, but a laissez-faire attitude isn't equitable to legal discrimination
I've always believed, and it may be me projecting my past beliefs, that Leftist thought is tied to the inability to recognize that they aren't the only ones who believe in the "Let's make the world a better place!" song and dance.
I can see a counterargument against my second point, the economic equality, but in terms of legal status, it's difficult to really contend this
It would explain the black and white mentality
The thing is
In many notions of "making the world a better place", particular segments of society are left out or excluded
Solely to "benefit" another group
I used to be pretty damned far right, honestly
I don't identify with the right
the right has destroyed nationalism
I was simply trying to reveal that I haven't always been leftist - I know many on the right seek a better world, but said methods often involved the complete neglect, if not outright oppression of other groups