Message from @Koninos

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2018-10-21 06:19:36 UTC  

It reduces stress in the short term (according to some blood pressure test), but the suicide rates are still there in the long term. I don't know if they go down after surgery/hrt, but I do know they're still extremely high.

Even if the cause *is* solely because of "discrimination", being 19 times more likely to kill yourself than the general population (I believe the attempt rate is in the 40s for mtfs and ftms is at or right below 50), especially in a country like Sweden of all places, should raise a few flags that these aren't people that are well off mentally from the start. Hell, people with Borderline Personality Disorder only have attempt rates of 10%.

It is demonstrably true that transgender children are far more likely than their "cisgender" peers to be autistic, for an example. This is something that **cannot** be attributed solely to the way their peers treat them. Given that these people are less capable of social interaction and connection than their peers are, and that their higher rates of autism would mean they are less emotionally secure than their peers, it would be highly unlikely this plays nothing short of a major part in the high suicide rates

@SilverLining

2018-10-21 06:40:11 UTC  

Responding to this several day old post

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2018-10-21 06:42:51 UTC  

@Deleted User You can't make the argument from nature since they dont care about it. Best to show them tangible examples of why something is a bad idea.

2018-10-21 08:16:48 UTC  

I am from the position of creation and you are a disgrace I reject all that is degenerate and that further my people from greatness

2018-10-21 08:26:30 UTC  

Kill yourself you dirty animal

2018-10-21 08:26:40 UTC  

Your existence is a curse to my race

2018-10-21 16:02:38 UTC  

If every degenerate person killed themselves, you would not have even 1% of population left.

2018-10-21 17:26:50 UTC  

I mean, there's actual neurological differences, so it is "nature" rather than "nurture"

2018-10-21 17:28:41 UTC  

Also, believe it or not, having ~40% of the population want to revoke your rights (or ~25% in the case of Sweden) does have negative impacts on one's psyche

2018-10-21 17:29:17 UTC  

And even if some people in the community are autistic, so what...?

2018-10-21 17:29:34 UTC  

Doesn't make 'em any lesser of a person, and even then, the community at large isn't primarily autistic

2018-10-21 17:29:59 UTC  

Also, just bloody let people do what they want with their body, it's not hurting anyone

2018-10-21 18:10:07 UTC  

Let them do whatever they want with their body, but do not let them affect others.

2018-10-21 18:47:47 UTC  

Right... Which is literally what LGBTQ+ people are fighting for

2018-10-21 18:48:14 UTC  

Sans some on the extreme left, but that's a vast minority which everyone always blows up

2018-10-21 18:49:02 UTC  

Compared to the vastly more large base of neocons which want to prevent them from doing whatever they want with their body, despite it not hurting anyone else...

2018-10-21 18:49:16 UTC  

Which everyone seems to ignore

2018-10-21 18:54:33 UTC  

Sodomy should me criminalized

2018-10-21 19:09:24 UTC  

YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE MOTHER NATURE

2018-10-21 19:09:52 UTC  

the effects will be felt

2018-10-21 19:09:53 UTC  

hmmm

2018-10-21 19:09:59 UTC  

What if I die

2018-10-21 19:10:06 UTC  

I can escape from mama

2018-10-21 19:10:14 UTC  

if you think you dont have to obey it you are wrong

2018-10-21 19:10:22 UTC  

Obey who? Mama?

2018-10-21 19:10:25 UTC  

Mama Natura?

2018-10-21 19:10:32 UTC  

OBEY TRUTH

2018-10-21 19:10:35 UTC  

NATURE

2018-10-21 19:10:37 UTC  

this is what I mean, though

2018-10-21 19:10:47 UTC  

also, fun fact: Male cats occasionally butt-fuck each other

2018-10-21 19:10:50 UTC  

same with mice...

2018-10-21 19:10:54 UTC  

Mama Natura watches you masturbate

2018-10-21 19:10:54 UTC  

a lot of animals in nature, really

2018-10-21 19:10:59 UTC  

Mama Natura knows everything

2018-10-21 19:11:00 UTC  

THEY ARE DOMESTICATED

2018-10-21 19:11:04 UTC  

No, in the wild

2018-10-21 19:11:11 UTC  

Wild cats do...

2018-10-21 19:11:14 UTC  

SURVIVAL WITHOUT MAN WOULD BE difficult

2018-10-21 19:11:15 UTC  

Ferals, lions

2018-10-21 19:11:23 UTC  

Hell, even wild dolphins do

2018-10-21 19:11:24 UTC  

they will get diseases