which doesn’t seem true

They commit more crimes, but I disagree that the reason why is because they are "just like that"

Black people commit more crimes per capita, that is a fact.

I think that the criminality is manifested by the environmental conditions of the communities, for example poverty is a huge factor

And if you control for them, they still commit more crime

You can perform the analysis yourself

You cannot control for that sort of thing

You can control for poverty

By examining all samples having equal household income

You compare a white man with x salary and a black man with x salary

Most of these behaviors are learned in childhood however

Since that's when neural plasticity is most plastic

The chaos of life is too much to control for in these kinds of tests

You can control for that too. Do you think that if a black family which is rich is living in affluent neighborhood for several generations, there would be no difference to whites

Of course you cannot control for all factors. But if you will set such a high criteria, then we would have to throw all statistical studies

@Doctor Anon has nominated @Draco for Senior Citizen!

It seems to me again that this is a way to try to prove an assumption and not really super great science

You have to make some assumptions for every field. The assumption here is just that if you control for some factors that are known to produce higher crime rate, then the difference between crime rates of two groups must be innate.

I didn't mean like that

Obviously science uses Methodological Naturalism as an assumption

I mean that 'race realism' to me has always shown itself to be cherry picked science to prove the assumptions of race the people who claim the title already have

I will concede that different races are, different of course. This is not an issue I have with the position

It is definitely not cherry picked. And bias in these fields is against race realism.
Now, it may be that the there are limitations in current analysis. But as it stands, there are many studies which you can read yourself that show that race is a factor in a lot of things.
Actually you can do the research yourself. I did one myself. Do you want to see the results?

And many that show the opposite

I think it's more reasonable to, even from a race realist perspective, to conclude not that any given race is the problem, but that we should seek to improve the conditions for all people to eliminate this issue

I do know many race realists will agree on Decolonization and black national self determination if they don't use it as a guise for hate

Hate is the wrong word, more like fear

You can link those studies. They are very problematic. .
However, coming to the main point. It is a question of distribution of resources. You cannot improve condition of everyone. It is impossible. From where would you get the money?

Well

I don't mean equality

I mean removing the base systems that create these barriers to begin with

So, give me a policy proposal you would want to enact?

There is a picture where boys are trying to look over a fence to watch a baseball game, "equality" is giving each one box to stand on, and another suggestion is moving the most boxes to the shortest. However a third option exists, remove the fence. Which ultimately I think communism at it's core is removing the fence. Now how we would use policy to accomplish this would vary from circumstance to circumstance, but for one entitlement to your labour and contorl over your work space is a good way to combat these issues, and black naitonal self determination is another

you're talking about equity

I have seen the picture. The point is that these options that Communism proposes are very harmful for productivity. And I am not sure about Black National Self Determination. Whites don't have that. The only thing that it will do is a collectivise blacks.

@Draco you blacc ?

No.

Well it gives black people an autonomous region

Yes, and what that will do? It will create a conflict with Whites who won't have such a region.

You think white people don't have national self determination?

communism is very fruitful