Message from @PebbЛe

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2018-11-04 01:07:57 UTC  

Are you a Marxist socialist? Or a sort of NazBol thing

2018-11-04 01:08:38 UTC  

i consider myself a marxist

2018-11-04 01:08:52 UTC  

the epistemological break is an important component to me

2018-11-04 01:09:12 UTC  

i find myself more intrigued with marx's scientific theories than his worldly philosophy

2018-11-04 01:10:23 UTC  

Well they're interconnected

2018-11-04 01:12:18 UTC  

I mean insofar as i don't need to rely on anything dialectical or materialistic to arrive at empirical worker exploitation and the effectiveness of worker self-management and proletarian freedom

2018-11-04 01:12:28 UTC  

or the validity of the LTV

2018-11-04 01:12:35 UTC  

or determining physical surplus

2018-11-04 01:12:37 UTC  

or surplus value

2018-11-04 01:13:27 UTC  

or that industries with a high labor to capital ratio are more profitable as shown by farjoun and machover in solidarity with the previously mentioned point of worker exploitation

2018-11-04 01:14:24 UTC  

Well, fair enough I suppose

2018-11-04 01:15:16 UTC  

As long as you can conclude with communism, that's to me what is most important

2018-11-04 01:24:17 UTC  

it's a possibility

2018-11-04 01:24:43 UTC  

as a theocrat i think an apostolic vanguard is necessary

2018-11-04 01:25:24 UTC  

Why aren't you a distributist if you're religious?

2018-11-04 01:26:53 UTC  

distributism is a system of creating a petty bourgeois

2018-11-04 01:27:20 UTC  

not socialistic at all

2018-11-04 01:31:19 UTC  

Seemed socialist to me since it didn't create a market so to speak

2018-11-04 01:31:28 UTC  

Er it's anti-market

2018-11-04 01:31:33 UTC  

Something like that

2018-11-04 01:31:52 UTC  

it's anti a centralization of capital

2018-11-04 01:32:07 UTC  

it's for the promulgation of cottage industry

2018-11-04 01:32:39 UTC  

Huh

2018-11-04 01:36:58 UTC  

pebble are you a mod

2018-11-04 01:38:17 UTC  
2018-11-04 01:38:38 UTC  

thank god

2018-11-04 01:38:55 UTC  
2018-11-04 01:41:16 UTC  

@Deleted User Check his roles debil

2018-11-04 01:44:59 UTC  

Probably cuz yer a filthy commie

2018-11-04 01:46:04 UTC  

i owned the first server for a period of time

2018-11-04 01:46:06 UTC  

😎

2018-11-04 01:46:14 UTC  

for like

2018-11-04 01:46:16 UTC  

12 hours

2018-11-04 01:48:58 UTC  

it was based

2018-11-04 01:51:46 UTC  

@Doctor Anon is he or is he not

2018-11-04 01:52:16 UTC  

how about

2018-11-04 01:52:18 UTC  

u check his roles

2018-11-04 01:56:15 UTC  

i guess he is

2018-11-04 01:56:23 UTC  

oh wait, this is serious

2018-11-04 10:15:17 UTC  

That makes no sense. Chieftains, theocrats, leaders etc. are those because they are respected by people who are willing to give them things. What you are trying to do is to reset society to zero.
Eventually, all these leaders by virtue of their power would become richer than other people. So, you will have economic classes again. The only way to stop that would be to put strong rules in check and verify transactions made by people to a high extent. That will be exactly like the Stalinist Russia.

2018-11-04 11:47:57 UTC  

generally speaking classes willa lways form, if not by material means then by other immaterial means. Such as leadership, Strength, glory achieved in battle, intellectual.

This of course has already happened and can be observed today, example the military. an officer in the field and during battle isnt endowed with incredible material wealth however he is superior to his peers and htey listen to him. Or even we cna look historically where tribes form, these tribes then create casts