Oh yeah and you have to be atheist to be in the party

atheists kill jews

so, okay

Actually even China still maintains that position despite reverting, in my opinion, fully to Capitalism

china is capitalist

Yes

no need to call it communist

They like to pretend the goal is still communism

but eh tbh its rather leashed capitalism

It's basically what corporatism would have actually looked like of any if the fascist countries actually meant it when hey said they'd do that

and china is facing a demographic crisis their population is declining

far below the 2.1 needed to replace the population

It's declining on purpose

yeah, no

they reverted the 1 child policy

and are giving checks for 2 children now

Yeah, I know

But they did intend to lower the population

@Enigmatic★Chromatic I never said that under Communism everyone would be equally rich. I said that Marx's critique was that some classes of people have undue power over other classes of people. This power comes from the fact that one class is richer than the other and one of the reasons for that is ownership of capital/means of production.
We know that because (Marx and) Engels said that in most cases, husbands are the bourgeoisie and wives are proletariat, though they also said that most men are Proletariat. The only logical way that both can be true is if the class analysis is not restricted to just means of production.
_"It's really disengenuous to tell a Marxist what Marx thought"_
Just because you are a Marxist, does not mean that you know more than others about Marx. I quoted their exact statements to back my assertion.

under communism everyone would be equally poor*

That is more probable, except the bourgeoisie of the Communist Party

Okay we are just saying anything now aren't we?

in the USSR the bourgeoisie wasn't removed

all the property was centralized in the hands of the communist party

so the communist party become the bourgeoisie

That's not how that works or worked

Yep. It is the fallacy of assuming that hierarchy goes away if you protest against it. Natural Law > Communism

There was a few different kinds of property in the USSR, State Owned, Collective, Co-ops and I think a few instances of normal private property existed

None of that was allowed to not be seized because government had almost unlimited power of seizure.

Honestly it would have done better if it did seize those

So, I guess potatoes, potatoes

the true slav knows atleast 1848 ways to use a potato

Potatoes can be excellently transported using helicopters

these hot takes

But the bourgeoisie is a specific relationship within capitalism, this did not exist in the USSR. The USSR had not reached communism yes, but "bourgeoisie" doesn't mean "hierarchy" and it doesn't mean *any* ruling class

What does bourgeoisie mean? Define it please?

Nor do I intend to elimate hierarchy

@Enigmatic★Chromatic dont try this discussion with him i already shit on him about it he just ignores what anything marxist means

Yes. I don't drink Marxist Kool Aid

The bourgeoisie is the specifically the a person whom extracts surplus value from the proletariat. The one who owns the capital that forces proletariats to see their ability to labour to for a wage

This is a specific relationship