@Draco here's a direct quote from Critique of the Gotha Program about what communism would look like: ```But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural privilege. It is, therefore, a right of inequality, in its content, like every right. Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view, are taken from one definite side only – for instance, in the present case, are regarded only as workers and nothing more is seen in them, everything else being ignored. Further, one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal.```

He literally says in communism some people will be richer than others

It's *really* disengenuous to tell a Marxist what Marx thought

```I am a jew and jews are the chosen people all others are beneath us
-Karl Marx```

Actually have you read "On the Jewish Question"?

its a meme btw don't mind me had to join in

Oh

I was gonna say he *really* didn't like the Jewish culture

yeah i mean the talmud literaly says jews are the chosen people and non believers are animals

really dumb religion tbh

I'm a proponent of Marxism-Leninism Scientific Atheism

Aka "State atheism"

Being religious is not banned, but public displays of religion, religous recruitent into your religion, teaching religion in school are all banned and instead it is taught to kids how religion game into existence to serve material needs and such

Sounds like hell

ravioli ravioli kill all the jews

Oh yeah and you have to be atheist to be in the party

atheists kill jews

so, okay

Actually even China still maintains that position despite reverting, in my opinion, fully to Capitalism

china is capitalist

Yes

no need to call it communist

They like to pretend the goal is still communism

but eh tbh its rather leashed capitalism

It's basically what corporatism would have actually looked like of any if the fascist countries actually meant it when hey said they'd do that

and china is facing a demographic crisis their population is declining

far below the 2.1 needed to replace the population

It's declining on purpose

yeah, no

they reverted the 1 child policy

and are giving checks for 2 children now

Yeah, I know

But they did intend to lower the population

@Enigmatic★Chromatic I never said that under Communism everyone would be equally rich. I said that Marx's critique was that some classes of people have undue power over other classes of people. This power comes from the fact that one class is richer than the other and one of the reasons for that is ownership of capital/means of production.
We know that because (Marx and) Engels said that in most cases, husbands are the bourgeoisie and wives are proletariat, though they also said that most men are Proletariat. The only logical way that both can be true is if the class analysis is not restricted to just means of production.
_"It's really disengenuous to tell a Marxist what Marx thought"_
Just because you are a Marxist, does not mean that you know more than others about Marx. I quoted their exact statements to back my assertion.

under communism everyone would be equally poor*

That is more probable, except the bourgeoisie of the Communist Party

Okay we are just saying anything now aren't we?

in the USSR the bourgeoisie wasn't removed

all the property was centralized in the hands of the communist party

so the communist party become the bourgeoisie

That's not how that works or worked