@Shalopy trust me you dont want to know about ulrichs

shameless faggot that somehow didnt get hanged along the way

That's very interesting.

That definitely makes sense, and it also makes sense that Communists would align themselves with all groups who have been marginalized.

for sure they have

but there is a clear difference between intersectional garbage and self-determination of peoples

Are there any brands of Communism that allows for theism? Generally Communism is Atheistic, I believe Marx once said that religion was the opiate of the masses.

That statement by Marx wasn't so much an atheistic comment but as a comparative device as something the working class holds onto as a sponge for hope

but marxism is usually atheistic and definitely is from Lenin on

if we combine his philosophy in whole from the Theses of Feuerbach on

But if you look at Marx via the epistemological break as noted by Althusser, which i believe in, one can depart from his philosophy and his worldy epistemic works and his material analyses of material functions and critique of the political economy

it's materialist in so far as there is material to study and apply to material and can easily be meshed with theism

Couldn't Marxism/Communism be similar to a sort of theism due a higher goal/vision of the proletarian and the emotional connection through that?

i get what youre trying to say

but i think it's more of the seemingly mystical awe that eschatology and marxist palingenesis both inspire

Religious morality generally is about sacrificing the individual to God, an entity that one cannot see or touch, but is expected to sacrifice, do their commandments and follow God's wishes. Similarly, I think it could be argued that the Proletarian could be in a way an entity-type figure with similar responsibilities of the individual.

That's kind of what I was trying to say but fleshed out more

Wow, worship of man. Reminds me of Nietzsche’s übermensch concept.

That’s very interesting @Shalopy

Never thought of genuine proletarians that way

I’d quite like that.

this is not a precedent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man

Huh, never heard of that before.

*The Soviet man was to be selfless, learned, healthy, muscular, and enthusiastic in spreading the socialist Revolution. Adherence to Marxism-Leninism, and individual behavior consistent with that philosophy's prescriptions, were among the crucial traits expected of the New Soviet man, which required intellectualism and hard discipline. He was not driven by crude impulses of nature but by conscious self-mastery, a belief that required the rejection of both innate personality and the unconscious, which Soviet psychologists therefore rejected.*

*The New Soviet Woman was a Superwoman who balanced competing responsibilities and took on the burden of multiple roles: Communist citizen, full-time worker, wife and mother.*

Interesting. A rejection of the unconscious. I don't think we're technologically advanced enough to implement Communism. I will have to talk about Ulrichs to my Marxist Sociology professor though, he seems to be one of the inter-sectional kind.

@Shalopy lucky for you there is a dedicated Marxist economist and computer scientist named Paul Cockshott who has large amounts of work done on its practicality today and the effectiveness that is available with current computing as far as planning and developments go

I'll definitely look into that. I also found a quote from Marx on Religion that's interesting: In the "Wages of Labour" (1844), Marx wrote, "To develop in greater spiritual freedom, a people must break their bondage to their bodily needs – they must cease to be the slaves of the body. They must, above all, have time at their disposal for spiritual creative activity and spiritual enjoyment."

@PebbЛe What are your thoughts to the preceding quote from Marx?

Also, what are your thoughts on Revolution, if you think it's necessary, and if not, what are some alternatives?

I think it's an excellent quote

and revolution is absolutely necessary

socialism will not come about by total concession of the bourgeois class

Was marxist transhumanist

Transhumanism was not a 19th century idea commonly promulgated so i doubt it

"To develop in greater spiritual freedom, a people must break their bondage to their bodily needs – they must cease to be the slaves of the body"

seems super transhumanist in today's context

As in violent revolution? If it was put in place by the people in power, it would definitely be corrupted I guess.

What are your thoughts on the German Democratic Republic as well?

there is no reason to think it is transhumanist @Doctor Anon

@Shalopy violent revolution, from a simple general strike and lockout to terrorism

and the DDR sucked