@Deleted User He's talking about the White Army (Tsar) not whites as a race

Old Communist vs newfag

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im gonna sleep its 4am im a sperg

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@Silkiri Lenin was sent and funded by the German Empire to cause disruption

The Imperial German government secretly arranged safe-passage for Vladimir Lenin to return to Moscow from Switzerland in 1917. Moreover, the Germans gave him financing through 1918 with the hope that Lenin would start a revolution that would cause Russia to withdraw its war with Germany during World War I.

I mean it doesn't really matter if they did or not

It kinda backfired on them

They didn't expect him to actually win

Relying on numbers from Eduard Bernstein, the German government sent "more than 50 million deutsche marks in gold" from 1917 to 1918 to help the Bolsheviks establish and hold power.

They did

Because they invested heavily

In modern currency thats over $200 million

They didn't actually want Lenin to succeed

They knew the dangers of having a revolution on their doorstep

Germany had to deal with numerous strikes and protests

Germany WAS the birthplace of the revolution after all

Wrong, they purposefully sent Lenin. German papers made available after WWII the German Foreign Secretary at the time of Lenin's passage Richard von Kühlmann said in a letter "I strongly believe that the safe passage of Vladimir Lenin to the Russians will cause a revolution that will result in the utter withdrawal of the war by the Tsar in the process."

"cause a revolution that will result in the utter withdrawal of the war by the Tsar in the process'

That means they wanted them to break the Russian war effort

"utter withdrawal of the war by the Tsar"

" by the Tsar'

You missed the last part @The Big Oof @Silkiri

How

"...in the process"

They intended him to overthrow the Tsar

"in the process of the revolution"

is how I see it being meant to be interpreted

Anon no it doesn't

Yes, it does.

It doesn't imply that they expect them to overthrow the Tsar

Germany wanted Lenin to be in power

According to former professor Albert L. Weeks, Lenin was a Germanophile. Weeks argues that Lenin viewed Germany as the central linchpin to an eventual proletarian revolution. Weeks further discusses the close relations enjoyed between the two nations after World War I, and how this relationship extended back into the 19th century.

Because Lenin had to spend a significant portion of his time in political exile in Germany

and the only real choices of countries he had

Were like Switzerland and Germany

That's just not the case Silk.

If you wanted to get back to Russia in a timely manner if called upon

You can't live out your days in Italy in those times

unless you want to live there permanently