Message from @Doctor Anon
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"in the process of the revolution"
is how I see it being meant to be interpreted
Anon no it doesn't
Yes, it does.
It doesn't imply that they expect them to overthrow the Tsar
Germany wanted Lenin to be in power
According to former professor Albert L. Weeks, Lenin was a Germanophile. Weeks argues that Lenin viewed Germany as the central linchpin to an eventual proletarian revolution. Weeks further discusses the close relations enjoyed between the two nations after World War I, and how this relationship extended back into the 19th century.
Because Lenin had to spend a significant portion of his time in political exile in Germany
and the only real choices of countries he had
Were like Switzerland and Germany
That's just not the case Silk.
If you wanted to get back to Russia in a timely manner if called upon
You can't live out your days in Italy in those times
unless you want to live there permanently
Italy was underdeveloped af
That's not why
Germany fully intended Lenin to win the revolution
Even, EVEN assuming they didnt intend for him to win, its clear from the transcripts that it would've been benefical to Germany either way
It was more like "we need Lenin to cause turmoil, and if he wins, even better"
We're talking about germany
Yes we are
dont point fingers
oH buT tHeY diD iT tOo
Anon they had to cut a deal with the German Empire
to avoid being overthrown
known as the treaty of brest-livotsk
It's quite obvious the Germans weren't pro Bolshevik
I really recommend you drop this argument as it is pretty much indefensible to take the position that the Germans wanted a Communist revolution
Did you not read what i said?
It was more like "we need Lenin to cause turmoil, and if he wins, even better"
How
That's an even more indefensible position
Are you saying they didnt want Lenin to cause turmoil?
Germany ABSOLUTELY did not want a communist uprising
They wanted turmoil in Russia just enough to make them drop out of the war
That was the sole goal not to change the regime
Lenin as a revolutionary is completley negated because he wasnt
He was a german agent
oh my god