Message from @Fingol
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Incels are the MASTER RACE. Discuss.
What is the point of life
@Saturday Night Wah to serve God
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@Bogatyr Bogumir Since you're very aware of the values of real Traditionalism, I wanted to ask you what you thought of Russia and Putin seemingly bringing such values back. I know Russians and Poles have a long ugly history, but from an Amerimutt perspective Putin is probably the best thing to happen to Russia, and perhaps Eastern Europe, in centuries. Poland seems confused as to what it is as a nation. They, from my perspective, reject the notion of being a nation of the West, while at the same time the younger generation seems gravitated towards the globohomo monoculture.
What do you see as the future of Central and Eastern Europe? It seems like you guys are starting to realize the poison but only after too many have drank from the punchbowl.
I appreciate the new path Russia takes, moving towards tradition and the old ways. I would like it if the west followed suite, though in some it is unlikely. Poland is much like Russia now, however after living through the horrors they did and experiencing Russian communism first hand, they possibly can't think past those memories.
@DeepLove From what I understand Russia is heavily influenced by Duginism and as far as I know the ideology basically is the cool aid that everyone has been drinking, just inverted and veyr direct. However if russia does in fact actually become traditionalist and become rooted in its ancient values and systems then more power to it. However Russia has, as far as I know, been crackig down on both nationalists and far leftists, the former is veyr worrying while the latter is heart warming.
As far as central europe goes, i dont think the west can go another 50-100 years without civil war of some sorts. It may simply revert ot some sort of local statehood with smaller regions taking over the function that the govorment used to hold. Meanwhile Poland and the "eastern block" countries have a shady future ahead of them. If they drink the coolaid theyll simply become the newest dominant proto communist megastate that might very well absorb these smaller nations, or generally it might just become a cesspool and a magnet for the degenerates fleeing this new, brutal hyper masculine polis style break up that say germany and france will undergo. This will in turn speed up degeneracy and potentially lead to much worse things happening, such as legitimate supression and overt opression of anyone not homo and pro globalism. Legalized pedophilia and all that.
Poland is at a tipping point, if the nationalists miraculously win this election, and multiple groups work towards propaganda and promoting certain values over others in a very aggressive propaganda campeign, then Poland will survive. If not we face massive repressons and the delegalization of nationalism and traditionalism philosophy and western sex ed and globohomo is taught in schools. Alternatively we have a third option where we simply have a revolution and legitimately become independant from any of (((their))) influence.
Either Poland gets its shit together and the masculine man arises, or it falls into obscurity. Better to charge blindly into the abyss of glory, for your actions to ring through eternity. Than to whimper off into nothingness, forgottne by everyone.
" if russia does in fact actually become traditionalist and become rooted in its ancient values and systems then more power to it. However Russia has, as far as I know, been crackig down on both nationalists and far leftists, the former is veyr worrying while the latter is heart warming. "
From what I understand, the Nationalist crackdown is just to maintain order in general, which can only be a good thing seeing the history of the place. Russia as a state is highly multiethnic, and recognizes itself as such. There is nothing stopping the orthodox white Russians from prospering, and indeed it seems that Putin is encouraging the old ways. I could be misinformed, my eyes have been primarily on the US, trying to figure out where this whole thing might be heading, into further decay or a rebirth.
(here is a video about how fertile orthodox Russians are rewarded)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpdkDZIkMbg
"As far as central europe goes, i dont think the west can go another 50-100 years without civil war of some sorts."
I agree with you, and I can say the timescale in the US is much shorter. There are too many discontented and the infrastructure is too fragile. I am not so optimistic for the other western nations, however. I see maybe Eastern Germany and perhaps Italy shaking off the delusion, but I also see very strong clinging to globohomo values in France and the UK without nearly as much cultural Left-Right division as is becoming apparent in the US. By the time enough people get together it may already be too late, there is no waiting 50 years, if you look at the demographics of the youth.
"Either Poland gets its shit together and the masculine man arises, or it falls into obscurity"
Not just Poland, but every developed country must pass through the great filter. Even those nations as far flung from the West as Korea and Japan must restore the natural order or face extinction.
Then why is your profile a pic of Lenin?
Because it's a good picture
putin is big gay
Under Putin Russia has seen a huge rise in Christianity and hundreads of churches are being built all the time. And really family values have been seeing a big surge in popularity. Putin might be far from perfect, but his unapologetic Christian values are very respectable.
He doesn't not have Christian values
Russia just has religious tolerance
Well Russia certainly has seen a huge rise in practising Christians
Putin regularly has people assassinated around him
I don't care if they get assasinated
Not Christian values to assassinate
It's not due to him
killing people for treason is just
It's due to religious freedom in a populace heavily religious and Christian anyway
There are no Christian virtues in Putin
The populace wasn't heavily religious and Christian before Putin
that's what you need to understand
They we're
The commies persecuted the church and believers were a small minority
Worship was still prevalent despite persecution
It came back under Putin
They didn't just all of a sudden become religious
And political ousting of the church didn't go large scale
Your point of Putin is not true
Most people definatly were atheist in the soviet union
And he does not have Christian virtue
Good bye
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Are you joking? The Church was absolutely destroyed by the early regime (synagogues were fine though, strange). It was only allowed back in a limited way when Stalin was trying to find anything to give his people some level of morale.