Message from @Da_Fish
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I would say that I agree with all points, except I think that the Canons of Dort (where we get TULIP from), understands limited atonement differently than most calvinists today.
I think Christ made a sufficient sacrifice for all, but an efficacious one for the elect only.
I only agree with T, U and L
I and P dont make sense because of Rev 3:20
Jesus Knocks we must answer
I've been really struggling on P. Which part of it are you struggling with?
A. the idea that the saints will remain in faith and obedience
B. the idea that the saints will never lose their salvation
b
and a
really both of them
You have to strive to be in the elect
you don't just get it
Also it's not just 144,000
There's a way you can deny the perseverance of the saints without being a heretic. You would have to do it like the Lutherans, though. They argue that, if we are united to Christ and enjoy his benefits by faith, then those who lose faith detach themselves from him. So, mostly apostasy would be the only thing that would cause one to lose salvation.
Rev 7 just says "sealed"
Jesus knocks we must answer
I haven't studied that passage much.
Also people can reject gods message
even if it is given by him
thus voiding I
Most churches are on delaware river and north florida
Yeah, I can't find any. I am in a FB group called "Old School Baptist" and another called "Primitive Baptist"
I gtg study for the ACT 😬 but let's chat more about this later 🙂
ok
😃
haha
no
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i have been defending germany from being called fascist
and that mussolini didn't invent fascism
The inventor of fascism was gentile
yes
as soon as you guys did anything to me you both got demodded
i pull the strings around here
Can you guys calm down
I'm trying to play verdun and can't moderate that well
no
vc dead