Alexander

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2018-07-11 23:35:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Da_Fish Manhattan

2018-07-11 23:37:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

In my school, they bring all students from 6th grade to 12th grade to a church and indoctrinate us with unspeakable sodomite crap.

2018-07-11 23:37:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Just some random Baptist church.

2018-07-11 23:37:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Lol, yeah Ik.

2018-07-11 23:38:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Are you really a PB? I was a PB.

2018-07-11 23:39:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

What does your PB church teach about justification? Most PBs believe in the doctrine of justification from eternity (J from E). Have you heard of it?

2018-07-11 23:40:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

No. They hold that the elect were never *not* justified. John Gill, William Eyre, Tobias Crisp, John Brine, etc.

2018-07-11 23:40:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

It's interesting

2018-07-11 23:43:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Yeah, I agree. I've been going through some doctrinal trouble. In the past while I've been falling into dangerous heresy. So, I am going back to my KJV Baptist church that I haven't been attending in awhile.

2018-07-11 23:44:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I would say that I agree with all points, except I think that the Canons of Dort (where we get TULIP from), understands limited atonement differently than most calvinists today.

I think Christ made a sufficient sacrifice for all, but an efficacious one for the elect only.

2018-07-11 23:46:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I've been really struggling on P. Which part of it are you struggling with?

A. the idea that the saints will remain in faith and obedience
B. the idea that the saints will never lose their salvation

2018-07-11 23:47:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

There's a way you can deny the perseverance of the saints without being a heretic. You would have to do it like the Lutherans, though. They argue that, if we are united to Christ and enjoy his benefits by faith, then those who lose faith detach themselves from him. So, mostly apostasy would be the only thing that would cause one to lose salvation.

2018-07-11 23:48:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I haven't studied that passage much.

2018-07-11 23:51:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Yeah, I can't find any. I am in a FB group called "Old School Baptist" and another called "Primitive Baptist"

I gtg study for the ACT ๐Ÿ˜ฌ but let's chat more about this later ๐Ÿ™‚

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