Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-08-09 16:54:09 UTC  

Hitler more successfully did this than Mussolini in my opinion.

2018-08-09 16:54:24 UTC  

well it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact

2018-08-09 16:54:25 UTC  

Mostly thanks to the efforts of Georing and Hansfstaengl.

2018-08-09 16:54:36 UTC  

Mussolini had little success after the battle for the liras

2018-08-09 16:54:38 UTC  

*lira

2018-08-09 16:54:51 UTC  

What opinion are we disagreeing on?

2018-08-09 16:55:09 UTC  

Nothing

2018-08-09 16:55:29 UTC  

I said it was a fact that Hitler had more success than Mussolini

2018-08-09 16:55:53 UTC  

I'm more of a Dist

2018-08-09 16:55:59 UTC  

Oh, that I agree with.

2018-08-09 16:58:50 UTC  

I think Mussolini was kind of a moron.

2018-08-09 16:59:08 UTC  

But all of the political theory surrounding Mussolini was better than Hitler's, and provided the foundation for Hitler.

2018-08-09 16:59:30 UTC  

Mussolini was a good theorist and campaigner

2018-08-09 16:59:33 UTC  

bad policy maker

2018-08-09 16:59:55 UTC  

Mussolini didn't invent fascism, Doctor Anon was right when he said Gentile did

2018-08-09 16:59:56 UTC  

his naval policy was especially atrocious

2018-08-09 17:00:10 UTC  

I did say surrounding.

2018-08-09 17:00:14 UTC  

oof

2018-08-09 17:00:15 UTC  

Anon also knows nothing about fascism.

2018-08-09 17:00:21 UTC  

He's a complete moron honestly when it comes to fascism.

2018-08-09 17:00:24 UTC  

And I've told him so.

2018-08-09 17:00:34 UTC  

He just happens to be right on the very trivial fact that Gentile is the central philosopher to fascism.

2018-08-09 17:00:37 UTC  

I don't know a lot about it either, but I think I get the core concepts

2018-08-09 17:01:06 UTC  

>everyone creating aircraft carriers
>Italy needs battleships!
>all Italian battleships suck at the start of WW2 by British aircraft

2018-08-09 17:01:06 UTC  

Fascism sees itself as transcending the left and right dichotomy because it stands in opposition to communism and nihilistic consumerism

2018-08-09 17:01:50 UTC  

For Italy Hegelian-Marxist thought was translated to see the "proletariat" in national terms.

2018-08-09 17:02:04 UTC  

With decadent bourgeois nations like France and Britain in opposition to weak countries like Italy.

2018-08-09 17:03:23 UTC  

Gentile was actually a Hegelian but right-Hegelianism is really perverted beyond recognition when you adopt it to fascism.

2018-08-09 17:03:32 UTC  

I don't think fascism can ever be left wing like some claim because of its motives

2018-08-09 17:03:38 UTC  

Because the original right-Hegelians were very politically orthodox. Basically Burkian conservatives.

2018-08-09 17:03:38 UTC  

Communists are internationalist

2018-08-09 17:03:53 UTC  

And seek to create a "new man"

2018-08-09 17:03:57 UTC  

"fascists r liburals!"

2018-08-09 17:04:06 UTC  

Fascism is meant to be a restoration of what once was

2018-08-09 17:08:25 UTC  

That's just the surface.

2018-08-09 17:19:46 UTC  

There's plenty of differences underneath that

2018-08-09 17:20:00 UTC  

Communism seeks to abolish class and private property

2018-08-09 17:20:13 UTC  

Fascism advocates for class collaboration

2018-08-09 17:23:43 UTC  

They may hate the same things up to a certain point, but you can make that argument about any two ideologies

2018-08-09 17:24:10 UTC  

well, perhaps not every pair

2018-08-09 17:24:18 UTC  

But you can with a lot that just don't make sense