Message from @εïз irma εïз
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If you think Franco was a fascist he's not. He destroyed fascism in Spain.
Fascist corporatism is a pretty bad economic system
The Falange was syndicalist.
right, Idk why I started talking about corporatism
You're not entirely wrong though.
The Falange was halfway between federalist syndicalism that Marxist-leaning syndicalists like the CNT-FAI would have wanted and Mussolini.
The free market is always more efficient, the only scenario I see where corporatism has utility is mobilizing the industry for national strength.
So I'm a lot more laissez-faire, I'm a dirigist.
Hitler abandoned traditional fascist economics in favor of a more practical system
Coincidentally
Nazi Germany was one of the only successful fascist states
I don't understand why people admire the likes of Franco and Mussolini
There aren't any traditional fascist economics. The goal of the fascist state is to coopt the bureaucracy and industry by incentivizing their profits with national rejuvenation.
Any fascist state that does this is engaging in "fascist economics". Corporatism is not always the logical conclusion to this.
It was a common practice
Hitler more successfully did this than Mussolini in my opinion.
well it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact
Mostly thanks to the efforts of Georing and Hansfstaengl.
Mussolini had little success after the battle for the liras
*lira
Nothing
I said it was a fact that Hitler had more success than Mussolini
I'm more of a Dist
Oh, that I agree with.
I think Mussolini was kind of a moron.
But all of the political theory surrounding Mussolini was better than Hitler's, and provided the foundation for Hitler.
Mussolini was a good theorist and campaigner
bad policy maker
Mussolini didn't invent fascism, Doctor Anon was right when he said Gentile did
his naval policy was especially atrocious
I did say surrounding.
oof
Anon also knows nothing about fascism.
He's a complete moron honestly when it comes to fascism.
And I've told him so.
He just happens to be right on the very trivial fact that Gentile is the central philosopher to fascism.
I don't know a lot about it either, but I think I get the core concepts
>everyone creating aircraft carriers
>Italy needs battleships!
>all Italian battleships suck at the start of WW2 by British aircraft
Fascism sees itself as transcending the left and right dichotomy because it stands in opposition to communism and nihilistic consumerism
For Italy Hegelian-Marxist thought was translated to see the "proletariat" in national terms.