Message from @Deleted User

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2018-08-09 16:47:29 UTC  
2018-08-09 16:47:47 UTC  

Falangism isn't left-wing.

2018-08-09 16:47:55 UTC  

I was making fun of some retard who thought it was left-wing.

2018-08-09 16:48:54 UTC  

Ah

2018-08-09 16:49:15 UTC  

The Falange was fascist.

2018-08-09 16:49:30 UTC  

Francisco Franco wasn't a Falangist, he destroyed the Falange.

2018-08-09 16:49:44 UTC  

If you think Franco was a fascist he's not. He destroyed fascism in Spain.

2018-08-09 16:50:06 UTC  

Fascist corporatism is a pretty bad economic system

2018-08-09 16:50:24 UTC  

The Falange was syndicalist.

2018-08-09 16:50:43 UTC  

right, Idk why I started talking about corporatism

2018-08-09 16:50:56 UTC  

You're not entirely wrong though.

2018-08-09 16:51:23 UTC  

The Falange was halfway between federalist syndicalism that Marxist-leaning syndicalists like the CNT-FAI would have wanted and Mussolini.

2018-08-09 16:51:57 UTC  

The free market is always more efficient, the only scenario I see where corporatism has utility is mobilizing the industry for national strength.

2018-08-09 16:52:14 UTC  

So I'm a lot more laissez-faire, I'm a dirigist.

2018-08-09 16:52:21 UTC  

Hitler abandoned traditional fascist economics in favor of a more practical system

2018-08-09 16:52:25 UTC  

Coincidentally

2018-08-09 16:52:32 UTC  

Nazi Germany was one of the only successful fascist states

2018-08-09 16:53:04 UTC  

I don't understand why people admire the likes of Franco and Mussolini

2018-08-09 16:53:33 UTC  

There aren't any traditional fascist economics. The goal of the fascist state is to coopt the bureaucracy and industry by incentivizing their profits with national rejuvenation.

2018-08-09 16:53:51 UTC  

Any fascist state that does this is engaging in "fascist economics". Corporatism is not always the logical conclusion to this.

2018-08-09 16:54:06 UTC  

It was a common practice

2018-08-09 16:54:09 UTC  

Hitler more successfully did this than Mussolini in my opinion.

2018-08-09 16:54:24 UTC  

well it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact

2018-08-09 16:54:25 UTC  

Mostly thanks to the efforts of Georing and Hansfstaengl.

2018-08-09 16:54:36 UTC  

Mussolini had little success after the battle for the liras

2018-08-09 16:54:38 UTC  

*lira

2018-08-09 16:54:51 UTC  

What opinion are we disagreeing on?

2018-08-09 16:55:09 UTC  

Nothing

2018-08-09 16:55:29 UTC  

I said it was a fact that Hitler had more success than Mussolini

2018-08-09 16:55:53 UTC  

I'm more of a Dist

2018-08-09 16:55:59 UTC  

Oh, that I agree with.

2018-08-09 16:58:50 UTC  

I think Mussolini was kind of a moron.

2018-08-09 16:59:08 UTC  

But all of the political theory surrounding Mussolini was better than Hitler's, and provided the foundation for Hitler.

2018-08-09 16:59:30 UTC  

Mussolini was a good theorist and campaigner

2018-08-09 16:59:33 UTC  

bad policy maker

2018-08-09 16:59:55 UTC  

Mussolini didn't invent fascism, Doctor Anon was right when he said Gentile did

2018-08-09 16:59:56 UTC  

his naval policy was especially atrocious

2018-08-09 17:00:10 UTC  

I did say surrounding.

2018-08-09 17:00:14 UTC  

oof

2018-08-09 17:00:15 UTC  

Anon also knows nothing about fascism.

2018-08-09 17:00:21 UTC  

He's a complete moron honestly when it comes to fascism.