Message from @Da_Fish

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2018-08-27 02:06:55 UTC  

Oh wow she’s stealing Pius’ argument now

2018-08-27 02:07:05 UTC  

Anything to weasel out of her confused statements

2018-08-27 02:07:24 UTC  

Me and Pius made the same point at the same time though.

2018-08-27 02:07:27 UTC  

@Deleted User you aren’t really adding anything other then insults

2018-08-27 02:07:33 UTC  

^

2018-08-27 02:07:52 UTC  

@Griselda it’s impossible to talk to someone as dense as Irma

2018-08-27 02:08:05 UTC  

The Slavery issue was the elites issue

2018-08-27 02:08:05 UTC  

Seems like he does this every night. I wonder where the animosity comes from.

2018-08-27 02:08:06 UTC  

@Deleted User then don’t??

2018-08-27 02:08:08 UTC  

Not the citizens

2018-08-27 02:08:09 UTC  

And i already mentioned the Missouri compromise

2018-08-27 02:08:22 UTC  

So maybe you should read more carefully

2018-08-27 02:08:23 UTC  

Lincoln said if he could keep the Union together with slavery he would

2018-08-27 02:08:43 UTC  

He only rejected the Crit Compromise because it was unconstitutional

2018-08-27 02:08:47 UTC  

Seems like it was an issue for the north

2018-08-27 02:08:53 UTC  

🤔

2018-08-27 02:09:01 UTC  

And would have caused havoc in western territories

2018-08-27 02:09:20 UTC  

I can name several Union songs that didn’t mention slavery

2018-08-27 02:09:23 UTC  

Like I said earlier, abolitionists, including Lincoln, were more often of the opinion that blacks were inferior but slavery was immoral. So Lincoln wasn't in a rush to immediately get rid of slavery in the North to sacrifice support of border states with slavery which he desperately needed.

2018-08-27 02:09:41 UTC  

And obviously again most Northerners weren't abolitionists and most didn't care.

2018-08-27 02:09:42 UTC  

Rally Round the flag

Irish Volunteers

Glory hallelujah

2018-08-27 02:09:43 UTC  

Etc

2018-08-27 02:09:52 UTC  

Same with southern songs

2018-08-27 02:09:55 UTC  

It was more of an issue to the South where poor white farmers saw slavery as a method of upward mobility.

2018-08-27 02:10:07 UTC  

Dixie

Southern Solider

Bonnie Blue Flah

2018-08-27 02:10:09 UTC  

Flag

2018-08-27 02:10:12 UTC  

But to the average Northerner it didn't matter much.

2018-08-27 02:10:16 UTC  

^

2018-08-27 02:10:18 UTC  

If we are talking about the causes of the war that’s political

2018-08-27 02:10:21 UTC  

Don’t shift the frame

2018-08-27 02:10:42 UTC  

You will do anything to weasel out of admitting you are wrong

2018-08-27 02:10:43 UTC  

Regular citizens in the south just saw slavery as the natural order of things

2018-08-27 02:10:45 UTC  

I have repeatedly clarified this specific point. I don't know why you're so attached to misrepresenting me.

2018-08-27 02:10:59 UTC  

You clarified it 3 different ways now

2018-08-27 02:11:14 UTC  

Slavery was the issue of the political class, the regular solider didn’t care that much

2018-08-27 02:11:16 UTC  

Seems more like you prefer to make vague statements and bend the context later

2018-08-27 02:11:21 UTC  

Seems we're at an impasse if you refuse to engage in polite discourse. 🤠

2018-08-27 02:11:43 UTC  

Guess all we can do now is get our flintlocks and have a duel

2018-08-27 02:11:47 UTC  

I cannot allow you the liberty to shift your context three different times every time I offer a new criticism

2018-08-27 02:11:55 UTC  

Lincoln wouldn’t have been elected if he was an abolitionist

2018-08-27 02:12:02 UTC  

That’s bad form on your part not mine