Just yet

@Griselda she’s claiming it wasn’t an issue for the north at all until 1863

That's not what I'm claiming though.

Most northerners didn’t care

That’s literally what you said

You are backpedaling yet again

Radical abolitionists where a minority

The conflict of slavery was largely a nonissue for most people, from independence up to the Civil War.

@Da_Fish since when has what the people thought mattered in politics

Why do you think John Brown was roundly condemned by almost all?

@Griselda it never did

Oh wow she’s stealing Pius’ argument now

Anything to weasel out of her confused statements

Me and Pius made the same point at the same time though.

@Deleted User you aren’t really adding anything other then insults

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@Griselda it’s impossible to talk to someone as dense as Irma

The Slavery issue was the elites issue

Seems like he does this every night. I wonder where the animosity comes from.

@Deleted User then don’t??

Not the citizens

And i already mentioned the Missouri compromise

So maybe you should read more carefully

Lincoln said if he could keep the Union together with slavery he would

He only rejected the Crit Compromise because it was unconstitutional

Seems like it was an issue for the north

🤔

And would have caused havoc in western territories

I can name several Union songs that didn’t mention slavery

Like I said earlier, abolitionists, including Lincoln, were more often of the opinion that blacks were inferior but slavery was immoral. So Lincoln wasn't in a rush to immediately get rid of slavery in the North to sacrifice support of border states with slavery which he desperately needed.

And obviously again most Northerners weren't abolitionists and most didn't care.

Rally Round the flag

Irish Volunteers

Glory hallelujah

Etc

Same with southern songs

It was more of an issue to the South where poor white farmers saw slavery as a method of upward mobility.

Dixie

Southern Solider

Bonnie Blue Flah

Flag

But to the average Northerner it didn't matter much.

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If we are talking about the causes of the war that’s political

Don’t shift the frame