Message from @Griselda
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The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the 9 remaining confederate stayes
States
Slavery was a contested political battle back in Jefferson’s presidency. But it definitely escalated in 1863
So you can stop being a petulant child and admit you are patently incorrect
(By that point Tennessee and Louisiana had rejoined the Union)
Not as states
Just yet
@Griselda she’s claiming it wasn’t an issue for the north at all until 1863
That's not what I'm claiming though.
Most northerners didn’t care
That’s literally what you said
You are backpedaling yet again
Radical abolitionists where a minority
The conflict of slavery was largely a nonissue for most people, from independence up to the Civil War.
@Da_Fish since when has what the people thought mattered in politics
Why do you think John Brown was roundly condemned by almost all?
Oh wow she’s stealing Pius’ argument now
Anything to weasel out of her confused statements
Me and Pius made the same point at the same time though.
^
@Griselda it’s impossible to talk to someone as dense as Irma
The Slavery issue was the elites issue
Seems like he does this every night. I wonder where the animosity comes from.
@Deleted User then don’t??
Not the citizens
And i already mentioned the Missouri compromise
So maybe you should read more carefully
Lincoln said if he could keep the Union together with slavery he would
He only rejected the Crit Compromise because it was unconstitutional
Seems like it was an issue for the north
🤔
And would have caused havoc in western territories
I can name several Union songs that didn’t mention slavery
Like I said earlier, abolitionists, including Lincoln, were more often of the opinion that blacks were inferior but slavery was immoral. So Lincoln wasn't in a rush to immediately get rid of slavery in the North to sacrifice support of border states with slavery which he desperately needed.
And obviously again most Northerners weren't abolitionists and most didn't care.
Rally Round the flag
Irish Volunteers
Glory hallelujah
Etc
Same with southern songs
It was more of an issue to the South where poor white farmers saw slavery as a method of upward mobility.