Message from @Da_Fish
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If you look at songs from the time the lyrics indicated that they felt the north was trying to subjugate the south
Southern support for the war itself was widespread, for slavery it was significant.
Yeah the South had always felt removed from slavery that the North tried to politically dominate it.
“Before the south shall bow her head, before the tyrants harm us I’ll give my all to the southern cause and die in the southern army”
That’s from southern solider
A popular song at the time
Doesn’t speak about keeping salves
Slaves
Just about resisting the tyrannical north
Yeah but you can't ignore that it was an issue for the average Southerner, which was an agrarian society. Many saw it as a method of upward mobility, many had a handful of slaves, and many resented it.
It wouldn't make sense even if every Southerner supported slavery to make it a part of a nationalist song.
Would be in poor taste.
Only 3% of southerners had slaves according to the 1850 census
So that alone is not a great argument.
I would disagree because most of the southern working class didn’t like big wig slave oweners
Source for that census?
@Da_Fish you are a creature driven purely by vanity... and crippled by laziness and fundamental stupidity
A cursory Google search traces that figure to an internet meme and confirms my statement.
Numbers are placed at between 1/4 and 1/3 from what I'm seeing.
Just about 4%
Where on this page does it actually say thatm
Am I missing it because I'm on mobile?
This website breaks it down by state.
Countrywide average of 8%, by individual state slaveholding states look at about 25% on average.
@εïз irma εïз https://www.census.gov/library/publications/1864/dec/1860a.html Broken down here by state or territory
Kinda hard to view the text though
@Deleted User If only you had a quarter arguments for every insult
But where does the figure of 3% actually come from?
Politifact, loathe as I am to cite them, breaks it down.
The 3% figure is counting individuals apparently m
The number I cited by state counts households.
Mystery solved gang.
@εïз irma εïз sitting here spewing out your tired fifth-hand /pol/ memes about religion and history like anybody but yourself is even vaguely impressed by the persona you decided to grab for yourself off an image-board this week.
"Using Census data to research his book, Glatthaar calculated that 4.9 percent of people in the slaveholding states owned slaves, that 19.9 percent of family units in those states owned slaves, and that 24.9 percent of households owned slaves. (Households are a broader category than families.)"
You're mistaken. I don't browse imageboards.
I thought you were going to bed?
And as for the technical distinction for census-taking, "A household consists of one or more persons living in the same house, condominium or apartment. They may or may not be related. A family has two or more members who live in the same home and are related by birth, marriage or adoption."