Message from @εïз irma εïз
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I’ll be retiring to bed now because the cowardice displayed by the owner here is giving me cognitive dissonance
?mute @Deleted User 10m
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***ostentatiousotter#3068 was muted***
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I've been in plenty of servers with Frank
Muting doesn'
Doesn't stop the autism
Mute him for ten minutes before he goes to bed.
You just gotta let it flow until he tires out
How will he recover?
@εïз irma εïз what was your original argument
Keep Otter around, he's funny anyway
Someone posted a based black Confederacy supporter YouTube video
Mine was that it mattered to the political class almost exclusively
And I explained why slavery was a nonissue for everyone except the South for the duration of the war.
Until 1863 anyways.
So Otter is saying I meant before the Civil War even though the context is clear.
I disagree, the political class yes however, as you said the opinion of regular southerners ranged from apathy to a slight resentment
If you look at songs from the time the lyrics indicated that they felt the north was trying to subjugate the south
Yeah the South had always felt removed from slavery that the North tried to politically dominate it.
“Before the south shall bow her head, before the tyrants harm us I’ll give my all to the southern cause and die in the southern army”
That’s from southern solider
A popular song at the time
Doesn’t speak about keeping salves
Slaves
Just about resisting the tyrannical north
Yeah but you can't ignore that it was an issue for the average Southerner, which was an agrarian society. Many saw it as a method of upward mobility, many had a handful of slaves, and many resented it.
It wouldn't make sense even if every Southerner supported slavery to make it a part of a nationalist song.
Would be in poor taste.
Only 3% of southerners had slaves according to the 1850 census
So that alone is not a great argument.
I would disagree because most of the southern working class didn’t like big wig slave oweners
Source for that census?
@Da_Fish you are a creature driven purely by vanity... and crippled by laziness and fundamental stupidity
A cursory Google search traces that figure to an internet meme and confirms my statement.
Numbers are placed at between 1/4 and 1/3 from what I'm seeing.
Just about 4%