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2018-09-05 01:46:08 UTC  

rip mans

2018-09-05 01:46:12 UTC  

wow people have power nothing has changed

2018-09-05 01:46:16 UTC  

he was deliverin that good shit

2018-09-05 01:46:22 UTC  

Very little has.

2018-09-05 01:46:27 UTC  

capitalism is different than other forms of society

2018-09-05 01:46:30 UTC  

But the Roman Catholic Church was the foremost sponsor of intellectual progress before the Protestant Revolution.

2018-09-05 01:46:56 UTC  

It wasn't bleak.

2018-09-05 01:47:08 UTC  

The medieval period wasn't devoid of intellectual progress.

2018-09-05 01:47:13 UTC  

This is a modernist myth.

2018-09-05 01:47:33 UTC  

not devoid but it wasn't great

2018-09-05 01:47:42 UTC  

there wasn't a capitalist impetus for progress

2018-09-05 01:47:43 UTC  

The Renaissance had nothing to do with Protestantism also.

2018-09-05 01:47:50 UTC  

that's bs

2018-09-05 01:47:51 UTC  

It was Byzantine scholars fleeing the Ottomans.

2018-09-05 01:48:07 UTC  

The things we know have been known, is just now we like to name and categorize them with fancy titles.

2018-09-05 01:48:14 UTC  

renaissance caused protestantism

2018-09-05 01:48:21 UTC  

How?

2018-09-05 01:48:27 UTC  

protestantism is the religious manifestation of the renaissance

2018-09-05 01:48:36 UTC  

How though?

2018-09-05 01:48:47 UTC  

the values of the renaissance are reflected in protestantism

2018-09-05 01:48:54 UTC  

Which values?

2018-09-05 01:48:56 UTC  

it's more humanist than catholicism

2018-09-05 01:49:14 UTC  

more egalitarian

2018-09-05 01:49:21 UTC  

So we're just going to ignore gnostics, Arians, Hussites, and Albigensians.

2018-09-05 01:49:28 UTC  

The Protestant Revolution was not unprecedented.

2018-09-05 01:49:37 UTC  

That is completely ahistorical.

2018-09-05 01:49:43 UTC  

ik

2018-09-05 01:53:08 UTC  

Humanism is materialistic and barbarian.

2018-09-05 01:53:15 UTC  

Maybe that's why Germans liked it so much.

2018-09-05 01:55:04 UTC  

Are you against seeing value in your fellow man?

2018-09-05 01:55:24 UTC  

there's also the jesuits, which i believe were part of the counter-reformation

2018-09-05 01:55:36 UTC  

they have been hugely important to science and philosophy

2018-09-05 01:55:50 UTC  

The counter-reformation was almost as bad as the reformation.

2018-09-05 01:56:11 UTC  

The Church debased itself in my opinion.

2018-09-05 01:56:18 UTC  

but it was corrupt

2018-09-05 01:56:23 UTC  

debasement non-unique

2018-09-05 01:56:23 UTC  

Which Church?

2018-09-05 01:56:31 UTC  

That's why they liked Copernicus but didn't like Galileo, just a few decades later.

2018-09-05 01:56:31 UTC  

roman catholic

2018-09-05 01:56:52 UTC  

The Roman Church was an institution of learning but doubled down in their theology to combat Protestant heresy.

2018-09-05 01:56:55 UTC  

Hmm, you seem to have misspelled "Paganism Lite".